Gabrielle Union

I think the first thing that comes to me is I would like to reclaim my own ability to define success for myself and not, again, it's self perception, like not jump into the eyes of other people, most of whom I don't know.

Instead to just, you know, I'm on this like tour right now as a musician.

I'm 50.

Like I'm way too old for this, you know.

But the people who come to the shows and...

And buy the vinyl and tell me how much my career has meant to them and songs have meant to them.

I'm not calling that success.

I'm just creating misery for myself.

I don't have aspirations to play arenas.

Like I make my living telling stories and those stories affect people.

And I think that that needs to be enough.

Right.

Or I'm going to create misery for myself.

So I've had a very lucky stretch of work the past few years with Shrinking and a bunch of Broadway stuff.

And now this off-Broadway play.

And it has really, really been...

And I'm also like really, really remarkably tired from like the last four years.

And so the thing that I am for the first time ever really like clear about, because we're like dogs with food.

Actors, we're always like, when's my next meal coming from?

And so we are always looking for the next job.