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Which he's not. Okay. I mean, I'm going to say it very clearly. It's not, and we shouldn't be surprised that it's not a historical person. Why do you say that? Well, so I'll answer your question first. Moses is really kind of the first extra biblical mention of Moses.
Which he's not. Okay. I mean, I'm going to say it very clearly. It's not, and we shouldn't be surprised that it's not a historical person. Why do you say that? Well, so I'll answer your question first. Moses is really kind of the first extra biblical mention of Moses.
Which he's not. Okay. I mean, I'm going to say it very clearly. It's not, and we shouldn't be surprised that it's not a historical person. Why do you say that? Well, so I'll answer your question first. Moses is really kind of the first extra biblical mention of Moses.
is found in Hecateos of Abdera and who was the Greek writer writing around the turn of the third century before the common era and he talks about a Moses and Now there are about, according to my calculation, about between 11 to 13 different Moseses in the Greek sources. And these are very different, it's the same name, but completely different stories about this person.
is found in Hecateos of Abdera and who was the Greek writer writing around the turn of the third century before the common era and he talks about a Moses and Now there are about, according to my calculation, about between 11 to 13 different Moseses in the Greek sources. And these are very different, it's the same name, but completely different stories about this person.
is found in Hecateos of Abdera and who was the Greek writer writing around the turn of the third century before the common era and he talks about a Moses and Now there are about, according to my calculation, about between 11 to 13 different Moseses in the Greek sources. And these are very different, it's the same name, but completely different stories about this person.
No, no, different stories, same name, but different stories. And that's really very, very interesting. So we have Moses as this military leader, great military leader defeating the Ethiopians. We have Moses as an Egyptian priest. We have Moses as the teacher of Orpheus, this great musician, the great singer, musician, and the teacher of, and the reason why, because it sounds like news, right?
No, no, different stories, same name, but different stories. And that's really very, very interesting. So we have Moses as this military leader, great military leader defeating the Ethiopians. We have Moses as an Egyptian priest. We have Moses as the teacher of Orpheus, this great musician, the great singer, musician, and the teacher of, and the reason why, because it sounds like news, right?
No, no, different stories, same name, but different stories. And that's really very, very interesting. So we have Moses as this military leader, great military leader defeating the Ethiopians. We have Moses as an Egyptian priest. We have Moses as the teacher of Orpheus, this great musician, the great singer, musician, and the teacher of, and the reason why, because it sounds like news, right?
Moses, so he's a teacher of Orpheus. We have him as a magi, as an alchemist, as a magician. So we have a lot of different โ and we have him also as a police builder. We have him as the one who built Jerusalem. We have him as the one who divided the Jewish people into 12 tribes. Things that are not in the Bible, right?
Moses, so he's a teacher of Orpheus. We have him as a magi, as an alchemist, as a magician. So we have a lot of different โ and we have him also as a police builder. We have him as the one who built Jerusalem. We have him as the one who divided the Jewish people into 12 tribes. Things that are not in the Bible, right?
Moses, so he's a teacher of Orpheus. We have him as a magi, as an alchemist, as a magician. So we have a lot of different โ and we have him also as a police builder. We have him as the one who built Jerusalem. We have him as the one who divided the Jewish people into 12 tribes. Things that are not in the Bible, right?
I mean, the idea of 12 tribes does exist in the Bible, of course, but not as tribes that Moses divided. It's not the same story. So we have 11 to 13 different Moseses, and we have about four different Exodus narratives in the Greek world.
I mean, the idea of 12 tribes does exist in the Bible, of course, but not as tribes that Moses divided. It's not the same story. So we have 11 to 13 different Moseses, and we have about four different Exodus narratives in the Greek world.
I mean, the idea of 12 tribes does exist in the Bible, of course, but not as tribes that Moses divided. It's not the same story. So we have 11 to 13 different Moseses, and we have about four different Exodus narratives in the Greek world.
around in the third century and many of them are simply they don't know about the about the biblical version they're not polemicizing they're not arguing with the biblical version they're just saying this is the way it was um how on the flip side actually the biblical version is polemicizing against these uh these other sources So clearly it's later, right?
around in the third century and many of them are simply they don't know about the about the biblical version they're not polemicizing they're not arguing with the biblical version they're just saying this is the way it was um how on the flip side actually the biblical version is polemicizing against these uh these other sources So clearly it's later, right?
around in the third century and many of them are simply they don't know about the about the biblical version they're not polemicizing they're not arguing with the biblical version they're just saying this is the way it was um how on the flip side actually the biblical version is polemicizing against these uh these other sources So clearly it's later, right?
In order to disagree with someone, you have to come later, right? You have to know about it. So the biblical version of the Exodus narrative is polemicizing against a lot of these Greek sources and trying to correct them and to protect the Jewish people from some of these interpretations that seem to be offensive to the Jewish people. And so that we do find in the Bible.
In order to disagree with someone, you have to come later, right? You have to know about it. So the biblical version of the Exodus narrative is polemicizing against a lot of these Greek sources and trying to correct them and to protect the Jewish people from some of these interpretations that seem to be offensive to the Jewish people. And so that we do find in the Bible.