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Gagan Sandhu

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Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

And I think before they even gain a little bit of sense of the world, they'll be like 10%. Right? It's fit. That's the healthiest thing. And I think what I realized is that very few people actually know this very fundamental thing that you can get these kind of returns. And also if you diversify a little bit better, you can probably get a little bit more.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

And I think before they even gain a little bit of sense of the world, they'll be like 10%. Right? It's fit. That's the healthiest thing. And I think what I realized is that very few people actually know this very fundamental thing that you can get these kind of returns. And also if you diversify a little bit better, you can probably get a little bit more.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Or if you're conservative, you can get a little bit less. But what we did at Zillion was we helped people visualize financial independence. So we built tools within Zillion and we actually call this tool financial independence tool, the FIT. So how fit you are or how, when are you likely to hit financial independence?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Or if you're conservative, you can get a little bit less. But what we did at Zillion was we helped people visualize financial independence. So we built tools within Zillion and we actually call this tool financial independence tool, the FIT. So how fit you are or how, when are you likely to hit financial independence?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

As soon as you tell us what you own and where your money is and how much you earn and how much you spend, we can actually tell you exactly, hey, you're going to reach financial independence in 2034, for instance, or 2037. And you can change things. You're like, oh, what if my income increases by $20,000 per year? How will that impact? We will show you how will that impact.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

As soon as you tell us what you own and where your money is and how much you earn and how much you spend, we can actually tell you exactly, hey, you're going to reach financial independence in 2034, for instance, or 2037. And you can change things. You're like, oh, what if my income increases by $20,000 per year? How will that impact? We will show you how will that impact.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

You're like, oh, what if I have to pay 100% of my child's college education? How will that impact my financial independence? For those of us who are not very good at mental math, we built this tool so you can just plug that number in and say, OK, my child is going to go to some XYZ college, 200K expense coming up in five years. How will that impact my financial independence?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

You're like, oh, what if I have to pay 100% of my child's college education? How will that impact my financial independence? For those of us who are not very good at mental math, we built this tool so you can just plug that number in and say, OK, my child is going to go to some XYZ college, 200K expense coming up in five years. How will that impact my financial independence?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

So we actually made the thinking part super easy and we took the assumptions out. Also, how will inflation impact my financial independence? Like I can say, oh, I need a million dollars to retire because that's the number thrown around or these days it's I think 2.2 million, that's the number that's thrown around. But hey, if I'm gonna live for another 40 years, is it gonna be enough?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

So we actually made the thinking part super easy and we took the assumptions out. Also, how will inflation impact my financial independence? Like I can say, oh, I need a million dollars to retire because that's the number thrown around or these days it's I think 2.2 million, that's the number that's thrown around. But hey, if I'm gonna live for another 40 years, is it gonna be enough?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

How will inflation impact that? you can actually adjust for that. So the overall thing we have done is what I realized is some people are very good at this math, but a lot of people are not. And what we did is we made the math so easy and so visual and so easy to understand and grab and actually play with that now financial independence should seem like a tangible thing.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

How will inflation impact that? you can actually adjust for that. So the overall thing we have done is what I realized is some people are very good at this math, but a lot of people are not. And what we did is we made the math so easy and so visual and so easy to understand and grab and actually play with that now financial independence should seem like a tangible thing.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

so much so that a customer of ours, I was meeting with them and it was in a social setting and I was explaining what we do and I was talking to somebody asked a question, hey, Gagan, how do I know how much money I need? I'm like, we built a calculator exactly. We built a product just for this and A customer of ours, he was also in that, he was also right next to me.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

so much so that a customer of ours, I was meeting with them and it was in a social setting and I was explaining what we do and I was talking to somebody asked a question, hey, Gagan, how do I know how much money I need? I'm like, we built a calculator exactly. We built a product just for this and A customer of ours, he was also in that, he was also right next to me.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

He's, oh, is that the number I see on the top right corner? I'm like, yeah. So the idea, the thing is that we made it this whole complex thing and we simplified it and we made it visually so appealing and so easy to use that people are able to now see what financial independence would mean for them.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

He's, oh, is that the number I see on the top right corner? I'm like, yeah. So the idea, the thing is that we made it this whole complex thing and we simplified it and we made it visually so appealing and so easy to use that people are able to now see what financial independence would mean for them.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

and whether and when they are likely to reach that and also once they reach are they at the risk of running out of money or not right if somebody decides i want to send two kids to college and retire at 42 and i want to travel the world and i'm going to have no income

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

and whether and when they are likely to reach that and also once they reach are they at the risk of running out of money or not right if somebody decides i want to send two kids to college and retire at 42 and i want to travel the world and i'm going to have no income

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Our product will show them if they're likely to run out of money, maybe by the age of 65 or 70, or they're not going to run out of money and they can comfortably even retire. For them, financial independence might mean retire. For some, it might mean they go from full-time to part-time, or it might mean they, rather than just working for money, they can now pursue a passion.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Our product will show them if they're likely to run out of money, maybe by the age of 65 or 70, or they're not going to run out of money and they can comfortably even retire. For them, financial independence might mean retire. For some, it might mean they go from full-time to part-time, or it might mean they, rather than just working for money, they can now pursue a passion.