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Gagan Sandhu

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Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

which is natural, but I think we need to find those times in your career where, in our careers, where we can work long for periods of time to build more equity, so to speak, with our employer or to build more skills. So maybe we are not, the work long part is we are doing somewhat long at the work, but also we are putting extra time to learn more skills. And that way we can actually

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

I think we can mitigate the side effects of ageism a decent bit. Does that make sense?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

I think we can mitigate the side effects of ageism a decent bit. Does that make sense?

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Will I hire someone who's older? So let me address that. So Minxie also asked whether I would hire someone who is, let's say, over 40 and comes to Zillion. I think the honest answer is yes, I consider everyone. And one of the things I learned early on in my career is to hire the best person for the job.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Will I hire someone who's older? So let me address that. So Minxie also asked whether I would hire someone who is, let's say, over 40 and comes to Zillion. I think the honest answer is yes, I consider everyone. And one of the things I learned early on in my career is to hire the best person for the job.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

So if right now, if I'm looking for, let's say, a marketing person who can come in and really take our marketing to the next level, I'll be looking for the skills that will help us get there. If those skills are in a 23-year-old or a 35-year-old or a 47-year-old, doesn't make as much difference as what is the specific thing I'm looking for. And sometimes experience is an asset there.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

So if right now, if I'm looking for, let's say, a marketing person who can come in and really take our marketing to the next level, I'll be looking for the skills that will help us get there. If those skills are in a 23-year-old or a 35-year-old or a 47-year-old, doesn't make as much difference as what is the specific thing I'm looking for. And sometimes experience is an asset there.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

And I would definitely look at that. So I don't think it's ageism as such. I would put it as it's skills. If you have those skills that I'm looking for. And again, we are a small company. We are a startup. Our needs, our skill needs might be different from, let's say, Google. That is a 27, 26 year old company. They might know probably even 30 year old company at this point.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

And I would definitely look at that. So I don't think it's ageism as such. I would put it as it's skills. If you have those skills that I'm looking for. And again, we are a small company. We are a startup. Our needs, our skill needs might be different from, let's say, Google. That is a 27, 26 year old company. They might know probably even 30 year old company at this point.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Our needs are different and our skill needs might be different as compared to some of the established ones.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Our needs are different and our skill needs might be different as compared to some of the established ones.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Thank you so much, Vince. This was so much fun. Thank you.

Chief Change Officer
#101 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part Two

Thank you so much, Vince. This was so much fun. Thank you.

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

Hey, thank you so much, Vince. Thank you so much for reaching out and rekindling old memories from business school. And I'm so happy to be doing this with you. And I'm a fan of you and what you're doing. So thank you so much.

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

Hey, thank you so much, Vince. Thank you so much for reaching out and rekindling old memories from business school. And I'm so happy to be doing this with you. And I'm a fan of you and what you're doing. So thank you so much.

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

Great. So my story is not very different from a typical immigrant to the US, and the US is a big magnet for immigrants. So I came here in the early aughts, 2001, 2002, to pursue grad school at Arizona State. And I liked the way things are here. I got a job. Incidentally, though, even though I came here to do something related to tech,

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

Great. So my story is not very different from a typical immigrant to the US, and the US is a big magnet for immigrants. So I came here in the early aughts, 2001, 2002, to pursue grad school at Arizona State. And I liked the way things are here. I got a job. Incidentally, though, even though I came here to do something related to tech,

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

My undergrad was in mechanical engineering, but I'm like, yeah, mechanical engineering, a lot of innovations happened in the 20th century. I should switch to something related to tech. So I went to grad school for that. By the time I graduated, nobody wanted to hire in tech because we were going through a huge recession and

Chief Change Officer
#100 Gagan Sandhu: From Grit to Xillion — A Playbook for Reinventing Careers and Financial Freedom — Part One

My undergrad was in mechanical engineering, but I'm like, yeah, mechanical engineering, a lot of innovations happened in the 20th century. I should switch to something related to tech. So I went to grad school for that. By the time I graduated, nobody wanted to hire in tech because we were going through a huge recession and