Garrison Davis

His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans.

What?

And he was really good at it.

Okay, I don't think that's true.

I'm telling you, the guy was a spy.

Yeah.

I think it really needs to click for people that Trump is not truly exceptional.

Rather, he's a product of the normal that people seem to be yearning for.

Yeah.

You know, and the other issues we're dealing with, too.

Yeah, I think, like, this is the crux of what comes next, right?

It's like...

We have this like, I don't want to disparage people.

We have this tendency in American politics, this liberal tendency, progressive liberal tendency even, to think that like basically things have been magnificent until the first week of November in 2016, right?

That America was progressing on this like linear pathway towards total equality and justice for all.

And what's happening now is an aberration.

It's the idea that there's a few individuals conspiring rather than there is a system which inherently creates interest, which we're opposed to our own, I guess.

You know, the economic strains people are feeling today that people have been feeling for decades, for their entire lives.

You know, the, the, the climate crisis that has only worsened as time has gone on.

I'm Andrew Sage, and I'm joined by... It's James again, here to talk about the new normal.