Garry Tan

I remember hearing about Kanye early on, like managed to get some early –

audio equipment and that was actually a part of becoming someone who can make music so i feel like me getting a pcxt when i was five years old i didn't learn how to write with a pen until later i learned how to type and the first story i ever wrote was

I think in WordStar 3.3 on a IBM PC XT, which is very funny.

But yeah, the personal computer was a really big idea before only digital or IBM or just these giant organizations like your university or a giant corporation you worked at would let you timeshare.

And it was like very, very limited and it couldn't do a lot of stuff.

It's kind of funny because we're sort of exactly in that age with AI.

And you see a time when that will be democratized?

Yeah, that's the open-claw moment.

Like, I think that that's happening.

That revolution is happening right now.

I think a lot of people, a billion people, are using ChatGPT.

And the wild thing that I see that a lot of people in tech are seeing, just beginning to see, I mean, there's probably a thousand of us in the world that really believe this, but everyone is going to run their own AI agent that is totally under their control that they program.

Will it still be connected to either ChatGPT or Anthropic or not necessarily?

Not necessarily.

For now, I think it will be, but the hope is you'll be able to choose.

I think that that's actually going to be one of the big enduring questions in the next few years.

There's sort of this nightmare scenario where one company or one entity or

Just one government has control of the biggest and best and only super intelligence.

And I think in that unipolar world, really, really bad things will happen.

But the good news right now is it doesn't look like we're on that trajectory yet.