Garry Tan

How about the straight-up patronage model?

Like, I really like this musician.

I really like this artist.

Let me just pay them $10 a month.

So I think Patreon just continues to grow, and that's a great model for sort of squaring the circle.

Do they have competition?

Does anyone else do what Patreon does?

I think they sort of have competition.

a good lock of what's going on right now.

But Kickstarter still exists.

And I think GoFundMe still exists.

And there are lots of different things.

But Patreon, I think, is just brought together all the people who are super creative, who just want patronage.

And my crazy idea for UBI is actually that.

Shouldn't we just expand that?

There's sort of big, big, deep debate about

What are all the people going to do when AI comes and takes the jobs?

And I guess my answer is, one, I think people are going to do a lot more cool stuff to serve each other, not just make something people want, but make a whole lot of stuff that people want.

That's sort of my first answer.

And then my second answer is the something people want part doesn't have to be just