Garry Tan

What was the next one after the internet?

Oh my God, the internet was so big.

So the funny thing about me is I learned how to make websites.

I cold called to get my first engineering.

My first job where I learned to code was this design firm called Adjacency in San Francisco, run by...

Now my friend Andrew Sather, his story was crazy.

He just cold, he didn't cold email because Fortune 500s didn't have email.

He would cold send these beautiful graphic design briefs of what the internet could do for these giant brands.

And he signed them as an 18 or 20 year old out of University of Wisconsin.

Great idea.

In 1998.

Just had a vision for what it could be.

Yeah.

So back then websites didn't look like the way they do now.

They looked like dinky, ridiculous, like under construction signs and gray backgrounds.

So Andrew Sather figured out how to make full page bleed websites that look like magazines.

And that was the thing they figured out, which I love.

I mean, I only say this because at every moment in technology, like there is like a cult of the new that creates value in a way that is astonishing.

Each of these things that you're describing,

changed everything and are all still living now yeah i mean i think about i mean sitting here in shangri-la this is the place that so many songs were born right now right and so whether it's music or art or movies or frankly code code is one of those things actually so and i got to work with these legends who