Garry Tan

And I was there.

So much of tech and so much of my life day to day is improv.

It's like a yes and.

You're sitting with founders, very creative people, and it's like, whoa.

Instead of saying, no, it's not going to happen, you know, I should be saying, yes, and.

It's like, oh, yeah, how does that – like, how does it happen?

And if it happens, what happens, right?

And it's just funny to think about that 2014 snapshot for me sitting in the YC partner room with Sam and, like, all the other partners who were working at YC at the time under Sam.

The vibe was not yes, and for Sam.

The vibe was like, why is this guy doing this?

And so that's actually one of the things that keeps me up.

I run YC today, and I want to run that room in a very different way.

And I realize sometimes I'm the one who's bringing that what the heck is going on energy.

And my people are thinking that about me.

I think YC is very interesting.

It sounds like you might not want to use him as the example of how to do it.

Maybe not.

Yeah.

I mean, I think he's learned a lot.

I think he's become a different leader.