Garry Tan

Yeah.

A lot of people are doing it, and then more people probably should get access.

I mean...

Our family recently bought a little bit of Anthropic on secondary, and then the joke among very smart people is, great, if you bought a little bit of secondary in Anthropic, it means you get to get upgraded to the level two breadline with the other Anthropic directors.

You know, going from level three to level two is a big deal in the future AGI world.

Does big tech do everything they can to prevent little tech from existing?

I don't think it's personal.

I think...

Capitalism means that you're supposed to go out and fight really hard.

But at the same time, I'm not free market maximalist in that, like, I'm not a libertarian.

Like, I think that there are roles and responsibilities for government to play when there aren't open markets and open access.

And just to give people choice, right?

Right.

You know, it's totally great that Anthropic, for instance, has the best model right now.

And I love it.

And I'm a big fan.

And a couple of the YC alums are actually co-founders of Anthropic.

But at the same time, it's like...

I kind of wish that they would be less anti-competitive, for instance.

Like if OpenCode, which is an open source code harness, like I love Cloud Code, but also I want OpenCode to be successful and to be able to be used.