Garry Tan

You can use something like Cloud Code to write a 100 times more software than you did before.

Does the fact that you were an expert coder in the past make a difference or no?

I think it helps a lot actually.

Cloud Code was the first revolution from November, and then now there's this new phenomenon that only happened since November, I would say.

where there's this other thing called OpenClaw, which OpenAI just bought.

And it's an open source package though.

So I think they basically just kind of brought the people in.

Started by this guy named Peter Steinberger.

I mean, it's a social movement at this point.

It's actually very anti-corporate.

It's like the definition of open source from the bottom up.

And I'm a total believer in it now.

The ridiculous thing is I dressed up in a lobster suit for our podcast, The Light Cone.

And the internet didn't seem to like that very much, but I didn't care.

But I actually at that moment wearing the lobster suit, it was more kind of a joke to me.

I didn't really get that there was this new phenomenon called open claw.

And now I get it.

I see the religion.

So do you know the movie Her?

Would you want to own a version of that AI from the movie Her?