Garth Tander

Because he was ready.

So that was the plan behind that.

It also helped that he was exactly the same height as me and exactly the same weight and literally did not have to touch anything.

And because he was a rookie, he didn't get to touch anything anyway.

So it's get in and drive that car.

Do not touch a thing.

Yeah, yeah.

So I started with Anthony in 2005.

Yep.

And I was really skeptical because 2005 was quite early.

I don't know that there's many really working with sports psychologists in supercars at that stage.

And I was really skeptical.

I'm like, what do I need this guy for?

I know what I'm doing.

But I was like, I was always open to how can I make myself better?

How can I be better as an athlete?

How can I be better at processing things, thinking about things and all the rest of it?

It was more that I'm happy to do it because I used to train by myself, but didn't have a trainer.

So I was like, oh, well, I can certainly do with being fitter.

So I'll use that and we'll see how we go with the sports like stuff.