Garth Tander

Because at this stage, Couchy was at Groves, Grant McPherson was at Groves.

So guys that I'd worked with at Triple Eight.

And Couchy rings me.

He's now the team principal at Penrite Racing and says, any availability as a co-driver next year?

And at that point, yes, there was.

Because nothing was done at Triple Eight.

So I'm like, well, actually, as you ask, yes, there is availability.

What do you want to talk about?

And then we started talking.

And never got to the point where we finalized.

The Jamie thing never...

We never agreed on the clauses that I wanted in the contract.

And the Grove deal just kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger.

Not that I was holding out, but these guys were like clearly interested in getting me across.

And it was going to take, you know, it was obviously a big leap of faith for me to leave AAA.

Yeah.

To go to a team that hadn't done anything at that stage.

So, yeah, I was like, yeah.

It got more and more attractive and got to the point where I was like, you know, I think this could be something interesting to do.

I didn't tell him where I went.