Garth Tander

I'd done that obviously with per cat back in the day.

I did a little bit of that with James Golding when I was at GRM as well.

Um,

And so I'd actually also, the reason that I had exposure to the Groves is the first year I was at Triple Eight, Triple Eight were running Dunlop Series cars for Kurt Kostecki and Brenton Grove.

Brenton was there as a Dunlop Series driver.

So Craig was mentoring Kurt and I was mentoring Brenton to help them with their Dunlop Series.

So that's how I met Brenton.

So, um, so Brenton's like, we'd be interested.

This could be interesting having Garth.

And then obviously I'd worked with Couchy and with Shippy and I'd worked with Alistair McVane a lot, who's there still.

So, um, I had a lot more scope to be involved with the race team, with, with Matt helping him, um, with, um,

set up direction with Gen 3.

That was year one of Gen 3.

So there was a little bit of concern with Matt with his lack of experience with supercars that, you know, might not have the right direction of the team.

Um, so to help with that as well.

So it was a far more overarching deal to, to be more involved with the race team.

So, and then that turned into, you know, mentoring Kai when he turned up.

Um, and, um,

And then sort of now sort of being, getting more involved with the strategic direction of the race team.

So, yeah, like today I wouldn't know what front spring they're running in the car.