Gary Breen

So it's home and away.

So...

But there's nothing like that now.

They have to win both games.

And if I look back on my player experience, against Turkey, we didn't lose and we went out.

And against Iran, we lost and we went through.

There's none of that in terms of aggregate scores now.

It's all about winning those games.

Isn't it amazing how we've gone?

And this is...

I'm embarrassed to say it, but it got to a stage, even though we're great Irish fans, all of us, but when the Ireland games were coming around, we were like, oh, no, it's another Ireland game.

That's how it felt over the last few years because the lads were just putting in such a shift, but nothing was going right for them.

And now, all of a sudden, now it is, oh, yes, the Ireland games.

And finally, because it felt like an age since that win against Hungary that this game's come grand.

Yeah, I hope you were going to say this.

No, I don't mind it.

I didn't understand why he felt he had to speak to Stephen Kenny about penalties.

I didn't understand that.

I think that's just Jaime kind of like PR going into overdrive or whatever.

But in terms of penalties, and of course, my biggest penalty experience is against Spain and...