Gary Direnfeld

Yes.

And if you're used to chaos, that boredom, that things going well, actually screams at you.

Mm-hmm.

It's like nails on the chalkboard.

And so rather than, you know, my line is relax into the mess.

Rather than relaxing into that discomfort and getting used to it, it's like dipping your toe in cold water when, you know, you need to jump in.

People exit and they exit through that self-sabotage.

We want people to get comfortable with the discomfort.

I think of the kids' song, the Hokey Pokey.

You put your big toe in, you take your big toe out.

You put your whole body in, you take it, right?

Can you imagine?

So look, this is how we get over some of those scripts, right?

By deliberately sitting in the discomfort.

And, you know, we talked before the show.

I've been traveling a lot.

recently, and you know that I'm not a traveler, you ask myself, does this change things for me?

Am I getting more comfortable with travel?

And the truth of the matter is, I am.

And I'm actually looking forward to some more trips.