Gary Fox

But I think it's a couple of things there you've said I really want to explore.

You know, it's the thing of never be afraid of walking through a door you can walk back through again.

Because I feel there's so much pressure put on, especially young people.

Know what you want to do.

Whereas I think you had a brilliant bit of advice there, like your Uncle Frankie, that is incredible to go do this, but you can also do that.

There's not this kind of like, just be a teacher.

Just settle yourself down now, just be a teacher.

And you see so many people in life do this kind of repressed ambition thing.

They just go and do the thing they think they should do as opposed to, well, you can do this and that maybe.

So you've squiggly career.

I love this.

You've described kind of my LinkedIn there.

Someone asked me yesterday in an interview,

you know, tell us about your career.

I'm like, I think that could take up the next full thing.

We wanted to get to the topic.

I've done very similar to you.

I've kind of squiggled around in different things.

I'd like to, curiosity is kind of driven everything.

So from the journalism then,