Gary Jubelin

Of course, regulate the nervous system.

Yeah, and when I was in the cops, when things were happening all the time, I'd just step aside and do my thing and get that balance back.

Well, if you're going into something high stress and it's a practice that a lot of people use is get your breathing right.

For sure.

Deep breaths in, deep breaths out.

Everything is in it.

So look, because I understand the stuff that you're talking about and I hope we haven't lost people and going, what are these idiots on about?

Yeah.

Can't knock it, like they were saying, don't knock it until you try it.

Until you try it.

Well, I think it's funny how people go into yoga and meditation and all that.

I had Bernie Matthews on the podcast years ago, and I think he spent as long in the prisons as I did in the cops.

Yeah.

a longer-serving prisoner of Supermax here in Sydney.

Yep.

And he was talking about how he got into meditation.

Yeah.

And when it was first given to him, because he was in isolation a lot of times, he thought, no, stuff this.

I'm not going to do this.

Why am I going to sit here and chant?