Gary Lyon

Lots of calls.

G'day Tim, g'day Gary, how are you boys?

Good Rob, thanks Gentlemen, Tim I'm a little bit disappointed with you mate and you're not going to believe this, I'm an umpire and I also run a pub so if you ran it past my pub test, I would say that pretty much everything that you've said has failed the pub test Okay, so everybody in your pub would agree with the fact that there's something to answer here for Zach Butters, yep?

No, well, first of all, let's assume that Zach Butters said what the umpire said he said.

You can't say that to umpires.

It's horrible.

I actually coordinate the umpiring in our country league over here.

And we struggle week after week to find umpires to do games.

And the reason is they get weekly views from crowds.

That's okay.

We can put up with that.

When our integrity is called into question, how do you think I go finding young lads

to umpire footy games on the weekend if they're going to get called cheats.

No, it's going to be harder if you keep saying things like you're saying.

And I'm hearing others in the media too.

Usually ex-players taking the ex-player's point of view without considering how the umpire feels in this situation.

I have.

Yes, he is.

But essentially, it's if he has said what he has said, and I'm not, I wasn't there, I don't know, you know, I mean, things get said on football fields and people hear different things.

That's okay.