Gary McKinnon

So it's pretty amazing.

No, it makes total sense.

There was a company called Made in Space that tried to do this for a while.

There's now a probably more promising company called Varda Space, which does this.

It's like factories in space.

And then often commercial companies are doing things that have already been done in classified settings.

And so the stuff that was done in classified settings might have been this, you know, who knows?

I mean, right now, I think it's like we have

that are known, like six people in space, like six astronauts, like on, you know, the ISS and on various space, you know, Chinese space station, they have an astronaut or two.

So the idea that how many officers were on this list?

At least 40-ish.

40-ish.

So maybe they're in space or maybe they were also, and maybe they were in orbit or maybe...

they were just managing this non-terrestrial you know uh kind of atomic layer deposition process or you know materials manufacturing or something yeah i've always thought they weren't aliens i thought this is bound to be because it says non-terrestrial obviously it's not extraterrestrial so in other words they're on a fleet that isn't based in space in on earth

When we talk about a speculative secret space program, we should establish something clearly.

There really was an uncontested, very real, and now declassified secret space program.

The US Air Force ran its own classified manned space effort alongside NASA's more public-facing ones.

In the 1960s, while the world watched Saturn V rockets rise under the banner of Apollo, the Air Force was developing the Manned Orbiting Laboratory, a military space station designed for reconnaissance of America's enemies and other orbital operations.

17 military astronauts were selected.

A modified Gemini capsule was built.