Gary McKinnon

And, uh, I had one sighting myself, uh, when I was about 12 and, um, I was looking out of my bedroom window and I saw this kind of reddish orange glowing light and it was moving in an arc from there to the horizon.

And it was, um, but it was like Brownian motion.

It wasn't a straight line.

It was like wiggling around and I just thought, what on earth is that?

And I was also a member of Bufora at the time, the British UFO Research Association.

Yeah, I was hooked from an early age.

And so I guess it only made sense that eventually I'd try and do something to further my own interests and find out more.

But unfortunately it involved breaking the law.

Sorry, mom.

So you already have an interest in UFOs.

Had you seen a UFO or like, you know?

Just that one sighting.

Just that one sighting.

Okay.

But I had my stepdad's stories.

He'd seen them.

His brother, my step uncle had seen them.

Yeah.

And, and, um, and so you have this personal interest and then do you have like a hacking background or like, do you have any sort of like cyber background?

Are you really good with computers?