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Gary McKinnon

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1814 total appearances

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American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And so for the audience, Townsend Brown is this mid-century, very mysterious inventor who started with the Navy, then joined Martin Vega, which was, you know, pre-Locke Martin merger, you know, the year that Skunk Works formed.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

and then kind of popped up in all sorts of, you know, three-letter agency contexts and was, you know, shoulder to shoulder with elite American military brass, people like Curtis LeMay, you know, just this very mysterious figure who consistently claimed that he would get these positive results in these anti-gravity experiments or what he called electrogravitics.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

There's even a video of him popping champagne from the Bonson Lab at the Institute of Field Physics.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

in North Carolina, which we know is the CIA outpost studying anti-gravity and literally convening all of the best theoretical physicists on the question of gravity in 1957.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And it was all sponsored by Wright Airfield, which is where all the UFO rumors come from.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

They were literally paying for this, you know, for a lot of this research.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Yeah.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Yeah, weird connections.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And so if you take what he claimed about his own experiments at face value, you'd have this crazy update against, you know, SpaceX and, like, chemical combustion.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

It would be this, like, total paradigm-shifting thing.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

It's not a small deal.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

It's a really big deal.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And the thing about Brown...

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

is we almost know, we know for a fact that he was one of the number one radar guys in the Navy.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

There's an FBI file from 1942 or three that basically says he knows more about radar than anybody in the Navy.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And that's number one.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Number two, electrohydrodynamics, which is not electrogravitics, it's the manipulation of airflow with electric fields, which is how the tinfoil, balsa wood, DIY foilers work.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

and fly.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

But it's also what made it into the B-2 stealth bomber.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And I'm pretty sure I kind of have the receipts on that too.