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Gary McKinnon

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1814 total appearances

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American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

We accuse this British citizen of having committed a crime in or against America.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Uh, we have this evidence and it's a crime over here and it's a crime over there.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

So we should have him in America to stand trial.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Totally fair, totally reasonable.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Um, but then, I mean, this is the weird thing in law, computer crime is a weird thing.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

It's a gray area cause it's not physical.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Where, where's your bum at the seat when you commit the crime?

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

There's lots of like questions that are legally intransigent, you know, like how do you place this?

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Um, so what happened was I was arrested in 2002.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And in March, and then I was re-questioned by the NHTCU, went to visit the DOJ in August.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Then they came back, then they re-interviewed me in November, 2002.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And that's when their tone had changed, very serious.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

You're accused of harming military systems, could be years in prison.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And that's when, you know, things really got serious for me.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

I thought, my God, this is just blown out of all proportion.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

Um, but we were protected by the extradition law because there had to be evidence of malintent, et cetera.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

And I, I, when I did my police interview, I completely admitted to what I'd done because it was all on the hard drive.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

You know, I said, yeah, it's all on the hard drive.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

I went there and I got this document, went to another place, got other documents.

American Alchemy with Jesse Michels
The Man That Hacked NASA and Found UFOs [Interview w/ Gary McKinnon]

So I was open about it, thinking, oh, six months, like they told me, I'll be fine.