Gary McKinnon

It's a bit embarrassing.

um my girlfriend and i at the time we were living in her auntie's house on the ground floor and um i was in my dressing gown up to like four in the morning smoking weed drinking beer just like right of my life really for you know a youngish guy i think i was 36 at the time so yeah

I, you know, I don't think that's embarrassing for you.

I think it's embarrassing for the sites you hacked into.

Okay, so you're...

You're getting a little late night buzz and you're at your girlfriend's aunt's house and you're just like, I want to know for myself what's going on in UFO world.

You do this blank password search.

You actually come up with some results as far as sites that you can get into.

What do you look at first?

Well, the first thing I had to do was test my method.

So I did that on British sites.

We're currently in Cambridge, home of the famous university.

I had Cambridge's FTP server, file transfer protocol server, and Oxford as well.

And a couple of polytechnics at the time, which are now universities.

And I realized the technique worked.

If you cast far enough, a wide net, you know, something's going to come in.

And then I thought, okay, let's go for the locations.

And my list of locations all came from the Disclosure Project book.

And also there was a, I forget the title of it.

There was like a hackers network document going around of a list of potential UFO secrecy sites.