Gary Stevenson
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He was about like 85 or something.
And then there was nobody in the entire Oxford economics department working on inequality.
I tried my best to choose subjects that were about inequality.
I couldn't find a single one.
I wrote my thesis about inequality.
I couldn't find a supervisor.
I had to go outside of the department.
And when I was there, the general consensus was you will not be able to succeed as an academic in academic economics if you choose inequality as your focus.
So that was my experience.
But, you know, you, I'm aware, have been academia much longer than me.
Have things changed?
Did you experience anything like that?
How do you think academic economics is now with regards to being able to seriously look at inequality?
A British economist at Oxford.
I've got his book over there, you can probably, in their shelf, Inequality.
So just very quickly, because I want to get onto your political work.
We often get messaged by young people who want to study economics and they want to study inequality specifically.
That's something I struggled with.
Just very quickly, what advice would you have for maybe young people here in the UK or in other countries
that are thinking about studying economics university and want to focus on equality.