Gary Stevenson

We don't have to do that.

Quick one, last one.

So while you're here, I really wanna get you, I really wanna get the political classes in the UK to see you and hear you because the argument for the wealth tax and wealth taxes here in the UK is very loud, very popular with the public, but many of the political classes view it as unrealistic and the rest is politics, which is the biggest politics podcast in this country.

Rory Stewart, one of the presenters,

said that pushed back on the idea that there is any he said there is no academic consensus he said where are the academics where are the people with postgraduate degrees where are the professors so what do you say to rory stewart the presenter of the biggest politics podcast in the country about the idea that no academics support this and would you be willing to go on the rest is politics and show them that there are academics who support this yeah i i say to rory stewart that he should uh

And you would be willing to go on the rest of politics and explain that to them?

Of course, I'd be fortunate.

Because, you know, I'd love for you to go on there.

And I really think this is the big economic issue of our time.

And I think any serious political podcast, you know, you are the world leader on this.

I think they should be speaking to you.

I can see we're out of time.

Have you got one final message to the British public and the Australians and Americans and New Zealanders you might be watching?

It could be us, it could be the UK.

Okay, well I hope it is.

So thank you very much for your time.

Gabriel's new book, We Need to Tax Billionaires, is just out now.

It's very short and it's very easy to read.

I read it on one fly.

This is just giving you all the details, basically, of how to do it and the details of how to do it.