Gary Taubes

So Steve Finney and Jeff Volek, too. Steve is a PhD nutritionist who trained at MIT and is out at UC Davis. And he had studied ketogenic diets. And Jeff Volek is an exercise physiology PhD, then at the University of Connecticut. And they start working together. Publishing on this and they helped start this company, Virta Health. I remember Steve's idea, I think it was.

So Steve Finney and Jeff Volek, too. Steve is a PhD nutritionist who trained at MIT and is out at UC Davis. And he had studied ketogenic diets. And Jeff Volek is an exercise physiology PhD, then at the University of Connecticut. And they start working together. Publishing on this and they helped start this company, Virta Health. I remember Steve's idea, I think it was.

So Steve Finney and Jeff Volek, too. Steve is a PhD nutritionist who trained at MIT and is out at UC Davis. And he had studied ketogenic diets. And Jeff Volek is an exercise physiology PhD, then at the University of Connecticut. And they start working together. Publishing on this and they helped start this company, Virta Health. I remember Steve's idea, I think it was.

We could just convince insurance companies and employers that they could save money. Diabetes is an expensive disorder. It's costing them $12,000, $15,000 a year in medical bills. If they could save 80% of that by getting these people on a diet, wouldn't they want to do that? So they'd become the clients, not the patients.

We could just convince insurance companies and employers that they could save money. Diabetes is an expensive disorder. It's costing them $12,000, $15,000 a year in medical bills. If they could save 80% of that by getting these people on a diet, wouldn't they want to do that? So they'd become the clients, not the patients.

We could just convince insurance companies and employers that they could save money. Diabetes is an expensive disorder. It's costing them $12,000, $15,000 a year in medical bills. If they could save 80% of that by getting these people on a diet, wouldn't they want to do that? So they'd become the clients, not the patients.

We'll go after the payers, the insurers, the Kaisers and Blue Shields of the world. And they create this company. They get this brilliant CEO, Sammy Inconin, who was a world-class Stanford MBA, made millions creating the website. I always forget whether it was Trulia or one of the real estate websites. And it's a world-class triathlete.

We'll go after the payers, the insurers, the Kaisers and Blue Shields of the world. And they create this company. They get this brilliant CEO, Sammy Inconin, who was a world-class Stanford MBA, made millions creating the website. I always forget whether it was Trulia or one of the real estate websites. And it's a world-class triathlete.

We'll go after the payers, the insurers, the Kaisers and Blue Shields of the world. And they create this company. They get this brilliant CEO, Sammy Inconin, who was a world-class Stanford MBA, made millions creating the website. I always forget whether it was Trulia or one of the real estate websites. And it's a world-class triathlete.

who was diagnosed with prediabetes yeah despite having come in first in his age group in the iron man triathlon yeah and sammy goes to steve and jeff for advice on how to treat the prediabetes and also how he wants to this is sammy and kenny wants to row to hawaii from san francisco to hawaii with his wife meredith and he thinks they could do it with like a fun on a ketogenic diet.

who was diagnosed with prediabetes yeah despite having come in first in his age group in the iron man triathlon yeah and sammy goes to steve and jeff for advice on how to treat the prediabetes and also how he wants to this is sammy and kenny wants to row to hawaii from san francisco to hawaii with his wife meredith and he thinks they could do it with like a fun on a ketogenic diet.

who was diagnosed with prediabetes yeah despite having come in first in his age group in the iron man triathlon yeah and sammy goes to steve and jeff for advice on how to treat the prediabetes and also how he wants to this is sammy and kenny wants to row to hawaii from san francisco to hawaii with his wife meredith and he thinks they could do it with like a fun on a ketogenic diet.

Jeff and Steve can coach him and they start talking about this idea and they start this company Virta Health. Meanwhile, by the way, Sammy and Meredith do row to Hawaii and they break the record and they don't need any carbohydrates on the whole trip. I think it's 24 miles.

Jeff and Steve can coach him and they start talking about this idea and they start this company Virta Health. Meanwhile, by the way, Sammy and Meredith do row to Hawaii and they break the record and they don't need any carbohydrates on the whole trip. I think it's 24 miles.

Jeff and Steve can coach him and they start talking about this idea and they start this company Virta Health. Meanwhile, by the way, Sammy and Meredith do row to Hawaii and they break the record and they don't need any carbohydrates on the whole trip. I think it's 24 miles.

Not only that, Sammy believed that a low-fat diet was the healthiest way to eat. He had been told that. And Sammy is, I think he's Norwegian. And as he put it, not that being Norwegian matters, but if he's Finnish, I apologize. Yeah. Somebody tells him not to eat fat, he doesn't eat fat. The man has an extraordinary strength of will and then he's diagnosed with prediabetes.

Not only that, Sammy believed that a low-fat diet was the healthiest way to eat. He had been told that. And Sammy is, I think he's Norwegian. And as he put it, not that being Norwegian matters, but if he's Finnish, I apologize. Yeah. Somebody tells him not to eat fat, he doesn't eat fat. The man has an extraordinary strength of will and then he's diagnosed with prediabetes.

Not only that, Sammy believed that a low-fat diet was the healthiest way to eat. He had been told that. And Sammy is, I think he's Norwegian. And as he put it, not that being Norwegian matters, but if he's Finnish, I apologize. Yeah. Somebody tells him not to eat fat, he doesn't eat fat. The man has an extraordinary strength of will and then he's diagnosed with prediabetes.

So there's something wrong. This is a common phenomenon that happens to many people in our world. You're doing what's supposed to be the right thing and it doesn't work for you. And then you do the wrong thing, which in this case is low-carb, high-fat ketogenic animal diet. And you get better and you say, wait a minute, if it's wrong for me, maybe it's wrong for a lot of people, if not everybody.

So there's something wrong. This is a common phenomenon that happens to many people in our world. You're doing what's supposed to be the right thing and it doesn't work for you. And then you do the wrong thing, which in this case is low-carb, high-fat ketogenic animal diet. And you get better and you say, wait a minute, if it's wrong for me, maybe it's wrong for a lot of people, if not everybody.