Gary Taubes

Let's divide the world up, let's say this is what can be achieved with diet and this is what can be achieved with drug therapy. And this is the complications that we know of with diets. Not many. And these are the complications we know of with drug therapy, chronic progressive disease. Many people might choose drugs. Maybe they're right.

But we don't know how harmful that is.

But we don't know how harmful that is.

But we don't know how harmful that is.

Well, you can, yeah, then...

Well, you can, yeah, then...

Well, you can, yeah, then...

And that's because we have this mindset that people with obesity...

And that's because we have this mindset that people with obesity...

And that's because we have this mindset that people with obesity...

we're not going to blame it on willpower we're not we're going to acknowledge that it's a disease now this is what oprah was saying but we're also going to assume that they won't change their diet yeah and you know it's really complicated i've read a lot of the the um you know the literature of mostly women but not entirely women with obesity um They're so confused.

we're not going to blame it on willpower we're not we're going to acknowledge that it's a disease now this is what oprah was saying but we're also going to assume that they won't change their diet yeah and you know it's really complicated i've read a lot of the the um you know the literature of mostly women but not entirely women with obesity um They're so confused.

we're not going to blame it on willpower we're not we're going to acknowledge that it's a disease now this is what oprah was saying but we're also going to assume that they won't change their diet yeah and you know it's really complicated i've read a lot of the the um you know the literature of mostly women but not entirely women with obesity um They're so confused.

They know it's not a willpower problem.

They know it's not a willpower problem.

They know it's not a willpower problem.

And often these authors will say, I tried every diet, none of them worked. And I want to reach out to them and say... You didn't try the right one. Or did you... Because they always include Atkins in the list. Did it not work for you? Or are you some, but then they'll say, you know, it's just one of these books I read recently. It's, you know, I don't want to go through my life not eating a donut.

And often these authors will say, I tried every diet, none of them worked. And I want to reach out to them and say... You didn't try the right one. Or did you... Because they always include Atkins in the list. Did it not work for you? Or are you some, but then they'll say, you know, it's just one of these books I read recently. It's, you know, I don't want to go through my life not eating a donut.

And often these authors will say, I tried every diet, none of them worked. And I want to reach out to them and say... You didn't try the right one. Or did you... Because they always include Atkins in the list. Did it not work for you? Or are you some, but then they'll say, you know, it's just one of these books I read recently. It's, you know, I don't want to go through my life not eating a donut.

Well, I understand. I get that. I get that. But, you know, I was, I've been biased by my history as a cigarette smoker. There was a period in my life where I couldn't imagine going through my life without a cigarette. Yeah. And in fact, my next cigarette was what pulled me forward into the future. Yeah. Maybe it's an inappropriate metaphor. I'm not sure it is or not.