Gavin Bade

Yeah, absolutely.

I think there's particularly on China, there's a big divide here because the president himself, every time he's asked about it, says, I would love more Chinese companies to come in here.

I would love investment.

I mean, this is a big policy debate.

How do you do this?

Do you just say no Chinese investment in the U.S.?

I think that's a pretty extreme position for a lot of people, even in Washington these days.

Can you beef up your screening of Chinese investments?

Do you just block them from particular sectors that you've identified as critical to national security?

That seems rather extreme as well, because that list of sectors seems to expand every year, right?

It used to just be, you know, we were talking steel, aluminum, copper, semiconductors, cars, trucks, critical minerals, all of the things that Trump has sought to protect with his national security tariffs.

I mean, now we're talking about most of the industrial economy.

And so this is something that the administration is chewing over and trying to consider.

I think it's a be careful what you wish for thing.

These Chinese companies, well, first of all, they are just really, really good at manufacturing.

They are very efficient.

They work their people really hard.

They pay them less than the US does in many cases.

And if you let that economic model in, that model is going to clash with the model of the vitro plant, which is more unionized, higher wages, more benefits.

And the other thing is, is just that the Chinese companies are operating under a different economic model.