Gavin Baker

But we're in a world where Anthropic has to make their case for safety in an age of RSI during a UFC fight on the White House lawn.

It's a very bizarre timeline, but here we are.

Most of the big tech CEOs, they have figured out how to work with the administration effectively, showing up to large dinners, photo ops, the occasional movie screening to make their case about hot topics.

Many of these CEOs also have business relationship with Anthropic, either on the customer side or on the investor side.

and that's what's really complicated about the Amazon relationship.

Obviously, Amazon uses Anthropic models, also is an investor in Anthropic, also provides compute to Anthropic, and so they have a very hairy, complex, circular relationship, and so that clouds the discussion over whether or not is Anthropic going to try and help Anthropic get through this?

Are they doing everything above board?

At the same time, people were sort of putting out that like, oh, did Amazon spike the ball on this?

At the same time, if the government comes to you and asks, like, hey, you're a big tech company.

You've been using this model a lot.

You're a close partner.

You're a close partner.

Were you able to jailbreak it at all?

And your security team just issued a report like, yeah, we actually were able to jailbreak it a little bit.

Like, you're not going to withhold that from the government.

You're going to turn that over.

That's different than calling and saying, hey, I really think it's dangerous.

You got to put pressure on them.

So there's this wide range of levels of interaction.

They can go both ways.