Gavin de Becker

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Well, here's where I am.

As a criminologist, you know, I take a different approach to things.

I'm not obviously a doctor or a scientist.

thankfully.

And as a criminologist, you get a view of the world that's quite interesting.

And so I took a deep dive into pharma.

But I want to put that off for a second, because I know, you know, a lot of these CIA operations like paperclip, where we bring over people who are working on bioweapons from Japan and from Germany, and we

Don't prosecute them, and we use them to be the beginning of the U.S.

bioweapons program.

And I know you know MKUltra and Mockingbird, but do you know the one called Project Gladio?

No, I do not.

Put your seatbelt on because this one just tops it all.

So this was World War II ends and the OSS, which was the CIA at the time, decides to leave behind rather than take everybody home, all the American soldiers, they're going to leave behind a bunch of them.

Hey, you guys, hide your weapons, hide your rifles, secrete all the grenades and ammunition and put it in bunkers and just sit tight until we have some ideas of things you ought to do.

So eventually a few hundred of them stay behind and they are going to do things in Europe to stop communism, to stop socialism, to fight the Soviets, etc.

But what do they actually end up doing is terroristic incidents against our allies.

They blow up a train station in Bologna, 285 people injured, 85 people killed, done and funded and operated by our CIA.

They do the 1989 assassination of a guy who's a journalist, who's writing about this.

They shoot him twice in the head.