Gavin Newsom

One part suffers, we all suffer.

Dr. King talked so evocatively about that.

We're all bound together by that web of mutuality.

But I think about this, and I think about it in the context of so much of the work you're doing and so much of the notion of myth.

and this sort of chiseled notion of a monument, et cetera, and how we sanitize so much of that.

But the importance of myth at the same time, this notion of the things that bind us together, not just celebrating our interesting differences, but how we can be bound together.

I mean, where's that tension between

You know, when I talk about California and was born into genocide, the first governor in California, 1851, Burnett literally talked about the war and extermination.

It was his first state of the state speech.

But I use that language and people are immediately offended and find it shameful.

And I'm not providing context.

He was in the vast majority.

He was a truly representative of the time.

And so what's that, you know, this notion of myth?

and the importance of myth, the importance of things that we can unite around.

How do you find that tension, or you just try to go straight to the facts?

Well, you know, we were interested, Governor, in calling balls and strikes.

So I'm interested in the facts, however messy.

I have in my editing room a neon sign that's been there for years and years and years, the main editing room, and it says it's complicated in lowercase cursive neon.

And that's what you want to do.