Gavin Newsom

So, yeah, I marched to a beat of a little bit of a different drum, a little bit more nuance here.

But there is look, it's this note.

Everything's so black and white.

It's just there's nuance here.

Yeah.

Just as a legal and factual level.

My opinion is I understand the tendency-

for people to make that, to assert that.

On the basis of the images and the proportionality.

No, no.

And by the way, I agree with you.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think the, but I understand that tendency on the basis

of trying to reconcile the proportionate nature of how the war was ultimately conducted and the devastation.

Yeah, look, I don't know the definition or I don't know the legal threshold.

That's not my opinion.

So I don't share that opinion as it relates to genocide.

I do not agree with that notion.

But this idea that Trump says people are going to public schools and coming back, having surgeries and coming back the next day is absurd.

Yeah, I just, well, I think for the grace of God,

I, but I feel that.