Gavin Newsom

Final question, just because I'm curious. I mean, when the dust settles on Trump, Trumpism then is top of mind. And what's top of mind for a lot of folks out there that are whispering is what's J.D. Vance up to? You know, you talk about Elon Musk, you talk about others that really supported his nomination for vice president, members of Trump's own family, Peter Thiel types and others.

You've got Bannon out there. either performatively or very seriously making the case, 2028, Donald Trump extending term or it's Vance, and then he'll step aside and will continue MAGA for another four years. I mean, what do you make of the 2028 third term? What do you make of J.D. Vance? How serious and concerned are you about J.D.

You've got Bannon out there. either performatively or very seriously making the case, 2028, Donald Trump extending term or it's Vance, and then he'll step aside and will continue MAGA for another four years. I mean, what do you make of the 2028 third term? What do you make of J.D. Vance? How serious and concerned are you about J.D.

You've got Bannon out there. either performatively or very seriously making the case, 2028, Donald Trump extending term or it's Vance, and then he'll step aside and will continue MAGA for another four years. I mean, what do you make of the 2028 third term? What do you make of J.D. Vance? How serious and concerned are you about J.D.

Vance and what he represents and the people that are his closest confidants and allies?

Vance and what he represents and the people that are his closest confidants and allies?

Vance and what he represents and the people that are his closest confidants and allies?

No, that's why. That's one of the reasons. I mean, that's precisely why I'm trying to invite these folks in. So we start to understand how potent and powerful they've increasingly become. Final, final. Over, under. Musk is gone in two months. Rubio, two months, what? I mean, what's your over-under on some of these sort of key players around Trump?

No, that's why. That's one of the reasons. I mean, that's precisely why I'm trying to invite these folks in. So we start to understand how potent and powerful they've increasingly become. Final, final. Over, under. Musk is gone in two months. Rubio, two months, what? I mean, what's your over-under on some of these sort of key players around Trump?

No, that's why. That's one of the reasons. I mean, that's precisely why I'm trying to invite these folks in. So we start to understand how potent and powerful they've increasingly become. Final, final. Over, under. Musk is gone in two months. Rubio, two months, what? I mean, what's your over-under on some of these sort of key players around Trump?

I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. No, and I lied about the final final. This is the final final, because I want to pick up what you just said is really important and looking for advice here, because I'm a practitioner in this respect as governor of this state.

I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. No, and I lied about the final final. This is the final final, because I want to pick up what you just said is really important and looking for advice here, because I'm a practitioner in this respect as governor of this state.

I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. No, and I lied about the final final. This is the final final, because I want to pick up what you just said is really important and looking for advice here, because I'm a practitioner in this respect as governor of this state.

I mean, you know, every day my state of mind is one is sort of just overwhelmed with all the incoming, the missives, the messages, the letters, the threats from members of his cabinet, agency directors, lawyers, constant threats. back and forth as it relates to sort of this deconstructive state mindset that Trump has and what 2025 represents. From our perspective, what do you chase?

I mean, you know, every day my state of mind is one is sort of just overwhelmed with all the incoming, the missives, the messages, the letters, the threats from members of his cabinet, agency directors, lawyers, constant threats. back and forth as it relates to sort of this deconstructive state mindset that Trump has and what 2025 represents. From our perspective, what do you chase?

I mean, you know, every day my state of mind is one is sort of just overwhelmed with all the incoming, the missives, the messages, the letters, the threats from members of his cabinet, agency directors, lawyers, constant threats. back and forth as it relates to sort of this deconstructive state mindset that Trump has and what 2025 represents. From our perspective, what do you chase?

Do you react to every little indiscretion or do you wait for the big things? Is it a Carville notion to stand back? and watch him implode, watch what's happened in the markets. This is a proof point of Carville strategy, one Carville may argue, I don't know. I mean, what do you do? Or do you flood the zone back?

Do you react to every little indiscretion or do you wait for the big things? Is it a Carville notion to stand back? and watch him implode, watch what's happened in the markets. This is a proof point of Carville strategy, one Carville may argue, I don't know. I mean, what do you do? Or do you flood the zone back?

Do you react to every little indiscretion or do you wait for the big things? Is it a Carville notion to stand back? and watch him implode, watch what's happened in the markets. This is a proof point of Carville strategy, one Carville may argue, I don't know. I mean, what do you do? Or do you flood the zone back?

Are you constantly in everybody's face and do what Charlie Kirk's doing every single day? I mean, where are you in the calibration?