Gavin Newsom

Because what you just said is not commonly known by the overwhelming majority of people that voted for Donald Trump that actually believe that that water was sent to Southern California. even though demonstrably we know that was not the case.

No, I appreciate that. I say what I said when I launched the podcast, that's not what this podcast is about. And if you're tuning in to watch a debate, turn on cable news. There's plenty of debates going on. Just go down, maybe go to Thanksgiving dinner and debate with your uncle. I'm not here to debate. I'm here to illuminate. I'm here to understand because, look, we lost the election.

No, I appreciate that. I say what I said when I launched the podcast, that's not what this podcast is about. And if you're tuning in to watch a debate, turn on cable news. There's plenty of debates going on. Just go down, maybe go to Thanksgiving dinner and debate with your uncle. I'm not here to debate. I'm here to illuminate. I'm here to understand because, look, we lost the election.

No, I appreciate that. I say what I said when I launched the podcast, that's not what this podcast is about. And if you're tuning in to watch a debate, turn on cable news. There's plenty of debates going on. Just go down, maybe go to Thanksgiving dinner and debate with your uncle. I'm not here to debate. I'm here to illuminate. I'm here to understand because, look, we lost the election.

We lost the popular vote. We don't have the House or the Senate. There's certain reality here. We're losing young men. And this perhaps to me is one of the biggest issues that define some of the challenges of the Democratic Party. Multi-ethnic young men in this country. These are trend lines that are growing to become headlines. And I want to understand how these guys work.

We lost the popular vote. We don't have the House or the Senate. There's certain reality here. We're losing young men. And this perhaps to me is one of the biggest issues that define some of the challenges of the Democratic Party. Multi-ethnic young men in this country. These are trend lines that are growing to become headlines. And I want to understand how these guys work.

We lost the popular vote. We don't have the House or the Senate. There's certain reality here. We're losing young men. And this perhaps to me is one of the biggest issues that define some of the challenges of the Democratic Party. Multi-ethnic young men in this country. These are trend lines that are growing to become headlines. And I want to understand how these guys work.

I want to know what their motivations are. I want to know how they operate. And I want to find areas where I want to find a capacity to understand and engage without demeaning. I do that plenty. I mean, you know, we're... You know, I'm going at it. We're doing we're litigating. We're doing lawsuits. I'm out there debating.

I want to know what their motivations are. I want to know how they operate. And I want to find areas where I want to find a capacity to understand and engage without demeaning. I do that plenty. I mean, you know, we're... You know, I'm going at it. We're doing we're litigating. We're doing lawsuits. I'm out there debating.

I want to know what their motivations are. I want to know how they operate. And I want to find areas where I want to find a capacity to understand and engage without demeaning. I do that plenty. I mean, you know, we're... You know, I'm going at it. We're doing we're litigating. We're doing lawsuits. I'm out there debating.

But I wanted to create a platform for a different kind of engagement, a two way conversation. And I so I deeply respect how people want to see the other side. But but for the purposes of this podcast, I just want to invite people in because I want to understand what world I'm living in.

But I wanted to create a platform for a different kind of engagement, a two way conversation. And I so I deeply respect how people want to see the other side. But but for the purposes of this podcast, I just want to invite people in because I want to understand what world I'm living in.

But I wanted to create a platform for a different kind of engagement, a two way conversation. And I so I deeply respect how people want to see the other side. But but for the purposes of this podcast, I just want to invite people in because I want to understand what world I'm living in.

want to understand what the trend lines are that define it i want to know how we can take advantage of it charlie kirk has created a platform for engagement where he's on college campuses in ways democrats are not he's open debates he's arguing with folks and he's increasingly winning young men and they're converting and they're moving over he's built a big platform he's built a big voice bannon i mean big part of what we just talked about in the top of this

want to understand what the trend lines are that define it i want to know how we can take advantage of it charlie kirk has created a platform for engagement where he's on college campuses in ways democrats are not he's open debates he's arguing with folks and he's increasingly winning young men and they're converting and they're moving over he's built a big platform he's built a big voice bannon i mean big part of what we just talked about in the top of this

want to understand what the trend lines are that define it i want to know how we can take advantage of it charlie kirk has created a platform for engagement where he's on college campuses in ways democrats are not he's open debates he's arguing with folks and he's increasingly winning young men and they're converting and they're moving over he's built a big platform he's built a big voice bannon i mean big part of what we just talked about in the top of this

about what's going on with tariffs that's that's bannon this has been bannon's vision for decades and decades it's manifesting and you know for me it's i'm not you know normalizing you said i appreciate but i'm not platforming these guys have millions and millions and millions of followers uh when i started the podcast i had zero like i literally started with zero in that first podcast with a guy who has tens of millions of followers so who's platforming whom uh and so i look and i'll end on this

about what's going on with tariffs that's that's bannon this has been bannon's vision for decades and decades it's manifesting and you know for me it's i'm not you know normalizing you said i appreciate but i'm not platforming these guys have millions and millions and millions of followers uh when i started the podcast i had zero like i literally started with zero in that first podcast with a guy who has tens of millions of followers so who's platforming whom uh and so i look and i'll end on this

about what's going on with tariffs that's that's bannon this has been bannon's vision for decades and decades it's manifesting and you know for me it's i'm not you know normalizing you said i appreciate but i'm not platforming these guys have millions and millions and millions of followers uh when i started the podcast i had zero like i literally started with zero in that first podcast with a guy who has tens of millions of followers so who's platforming whom uh and so i look and i'll end on this

I'm exhausted, and maybe others are not. I really long for a world where we can live together across our differences. I really long for a world where I can show up and disagree with someone politically, but still respect and appreciate that they love their kids like I love my kids. They love their community. They want to be connected to something bigger than themselves.