Gavin Newsom

Well, coming up next, I have Ezra Klein here in studio talking about his new book that he co-authored with Derek Thompson called Abundance. In this book, Ezra does not hold back on taking a very critical look at democratic governance all across the United States of America, in particular, in my home state of California. This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Ezra Klein.

Well, coming up next, I have Ezra Klein here in studio talking about his new book that he co-authored with Derek Thompson called Abundance. In this book, Ezra does not hold back on taking a very critical look at democratic governance all across the United States of America, in particular, in my home state of California. This is Gavin Newsom. And this is Ezra Klein.

Ezra, it is great to have you here in studio. Thanks for having me here for this weird inversion. Weird inversion. And you've been, I mean, you've been all over the place. You got a new book, Abundance, and we'll jump right into that. But I want to just frame a little bit of the relationship that we have that goes back, and you may not even remember this.

Ezra, it is great to have you here in studio. Thanks for having me here for this weird inversion. Weird inversion. And you've been, I mean, you've been all over the place. You got a new book, Abundance, and we'll jump right into that. But I want to just frame a little bit of the relationship that we have that goes back, and you may not even remember this.

Ezra, it is great to have you here in studio. Thanks for having me here for this weird inversion. Weird inversion. And you've been, I mean, you've been all over the place. You got a new book, Abundance, and we'll jump right into that. But I want to just frame a little bit of the relationship that we have that goes back, and you may not even remember this.

I was a new mayor in San Francisco and was asked by Bill Maher to go on a show. I remember this. And you were one of the panelists. And I'll never forget just sparring with Bill, obviously, and then you. And after the show was done and we were all finishing, you had left. Maher goes up to me and he goes, who the hell was that? And I'm like, I know. Who the hell was that? And it was you.

I was a new mayor in San Francisco and was asked by Bill Maher to go on a show. I remember this. And you were one of the panelists. And I'll never forget just sparring with Bill, obviously, and then you. And after the show was done and we were all finishing, you had left. Maher goes up to me and he goes, who the hell was that? And I'm like, I know. Who the hell was that? And it was you.

I was a new mayor in San Francisco and was asked by Bill Maher to go on a show. I remember this. And you were one of the panelists. And I'll never forget just sparring with Bill, obviously, and then you. And after the show was done and we were all finishing, you had left. Maher goes up to me and he goes, who the hell was that? And I'm like, I know. Who the hell was that? And it was you.

We were like, whoa. Just both of us didn't have a, you know, I was relatively new. Bill's been seasoned pro.

We were like, whoa. Just both of us didn't have a, you know, I was relatively new. Bill's been seasoned pro.

We were like, whoa. Just both of us didn't have a, you know, I was relatively new. Bill's been seasoned pro.

Maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. Was I still, was I Lieutenant Governor? I'm pretty sure you were Lieutenant Governor. So maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. But I was like, anyway, I'd been on the show a bunch of times, but you were, you had a next level capacity to analyze things and to deliver a point of view.

Maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. Was I still, was I Lieutenant Governor? I'm pretty sure you were Lieutenant Governor. So maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. But I was like, anyway, I'd been on the show a bunch of times, but you were, you had a next level capacity to analyze things and to deliver a point of view.

Maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. Was I still, was I Lieutenant Governor? I'm pretty sure you were Lieutenant Governor. So maybe I was Lieutenant Governor. But I was like, anyway, I'd been on the show a bunch of times, but you were, you had a next level capacity to analyze things and to deliver a point of view.

And so it's not surprising to me that so much of that, including that conversation we probably had on that studio and set, is reflected in what you've been focused on for decades and decades.

And so it's not surprising to me that so much of that, including that conversation we probably had on that studio and set, is reflected in what you've been focused on for decades and decades.

And so it's not surprising to me that so much of that, including that conversation we probably had on that studio and set, is reflected in what you've been focused on for decades and decades.

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