Gavin Newsom

audacious projects, and I will give you your due on high-speed rail. I have been as critical or more than you have about this. In fact, I appreciate you reference my pivot after I took this job as governor where we called out the status quo, and now we're trying to level set and get this back on track. But at least there's a vision. At least Obama had a vision. He wanted to be big in big things.

audacious projects, and I will give you your due on high-speed rail. I have been as critical or more than you have about this. In fact, I appreciate you reference my pivot after I took this job as governor where we called out the status quo, and now we're trying to level set and get this back on track. But at least there's a vision. At least Obama had a vision. He wanted to be big in big things.

He wanted to do big things. And at least progressive states still have a vision. And they have a desire. I mean, and I think that's part of an abundance frame. And while it's difficult to manifest that vision, I don't think it's an indictment necessarily. Well, it's an indictment in terms of our ability to deliver on time and under budget. But the vision, I think, is foundational and important.

He wanted to do big things. And at least progressive states still have a vision. And they have a desire. I mean, and I think that's part of an abundance frame. And while it's difficult to manifest that vision, I don't think it's an indictment necessarily. Well, it's an indictment in terms of our ability to deliver on time and under budget. But the vision, I think, is foundational and important.

He wanted to do big things. And at least progressive states still have a vision. And they have a desire. I mean, and I think that's part of an abundance frame. And while it's difficult to manifest that vision, I don't think it's an indictment necessarily. Well, it's an indictment in terms of our ability to deliver on time and under budget. But the vision, I think, is foundational and important.

And I give credit to the Obama administration in that respect for all three, even if they were all for three.

And I give credit to the Obama administration in that respect for all three, even if they were all for three.

And I give credit to the Obama administration in that respect for all three, even if they were all for three.

You got it.

You got it.

You got it.

Yeah. And I would say that's the central theory of at least the argument that I would make against the high-speed rail is, I mean, look, this thing started, and you make the point it started, there was sort of talk about the vision. The original vision was not Obama.

Yeah. And I would say that's the central theory of at least the argument that I would make against the high-speed rail is, I mean, look, this thing started, and you make the point it started, there was sort of talk about the vision. The original vision was not Obama.

Yeah. And I would say that's the central theory of at least the argument that I would make against the high-speed rail is, I mean, look, this thing started, and you make the point it started, there was sort of talk about the vision. The original vision was not Obama.

It wasn't even necessarily Jerry Brown, but you point to 1982 when Brown at least says, former governor Jerry Brown, we should look at this high-speed rail thing. And then eventually Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, puts a bond on the ballot in 2008 and the voters approve it. And you're right. There was a lot of promotion of promise, $33.6 billion, two hours and 20 minutes downtown.

It wasn't even necessarily Jerry Brown, but you point to 1982 when Brown at least says, former governor Jerry Brown, we should look at this high-speed rail thing. And then eventually Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, puts a bond on the ballot in 2008 and the voters approve it. And you're right. There was a lot of promotion of promise, $33.6 billion, two hours and 20 minutes downtown.

It wasn't even necessarily Jerry Brown, but you point to 1982 when Brown at least says, former governor Jerry Brown, we should look at this high-speed rail thing. And then eventually Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, puts a bond on the ballot in 2008 and the voters approve it. And you're right. There was a lot of promotion of promise, $33.6 billion, two hours and 20 minutes downtown.

By 2020 and the whole thing. And then reality. Now, I get here decade later, decade plus later, and reconcile the fact that we have to dig our way out of this. There's a new reality. There's scarcity of resources. There's an abundance of delay. There's an abundance of cost overruns. And we have to level set that we need to build something Or we're left with literally nothing.

By 2020 and the whole thing. And then reality. Now, I get here decade later, decade plus later, and reconcile the fact that we have to dig our way out of this. There's a new reality. There's scarcity of resources. There's an abundance of delay. There's an abundance of cost overruns. And we have to level set that we need to build something Or we're left with literally nothing.

By 2020 and the whole thing. And then reality. Now, I get here decade later, decade plus later, and reconcile the fact that we have to dig our way out of this. There's a new reality. There's scarcity of resources. There's an abundance of delay. There's an abundance of cost overruns. And we have to level set that we need to build something Or we're left with literally nothing.