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Gavin Whedon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
72 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

I think it helps to mark out the distinction between the idea that protein is something we need, which is true, but it's in everything we eat, and the idea that it might be something that we want, that we affect certain kinds of desire to.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

You have, after the Second World War in America, this rapid industrialization of agriculture, able to produce abundant quantities of milk and cheese in the dairy industry.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

One of the unintended offshoots of that is the production of an abundance of excess whey, because whey is the excess of milk and cheese production.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

It's what gets left over.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

This wasn't an issue for thousands of years of farming because when you're making not much milk or cheese, there's not much way.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

You can redistribute it as fertilizer.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

You can feed it to other animals.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

You can use it in artisanal recipes.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

But when you produce it on industrial scales, it presents a problem and did present a problem, particularly in the 1960s and 1970s.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

And presented dairy farming at the time in the US with the question of what to do with it.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

And the initial response was to dump it.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

It was dumping in rivers and sewers and in streams.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

And this was environmentally devastating, you can imagine.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

That's partly because of whey's consistency and its potency.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

It's dense in nitrogen.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

In that raw form, it's 175 times more toxic than human sewage.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

And so when you start dumping it in rivers and streams, oh, and it really smells.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

So it drew the attention and the ire of local communities whose rivers and streams were being dumped in.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

So this leads to a phase of activism, of investigative journalism, legislation, and ultimately the pressure on the dairy industry to do something else with this abundance.

Apple News Today
Americans are obsessed with protein. How much do you actually need?

One option, of course, would be to produce less milk or cheese, but that's degrowth is seldom an option.

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