Gemma Cairney

Well, you were already in L.A., but like properly like there for a long time having a family.

But we definitely pitched stuff.

Rumble in the Jungle was one of these things and that was like completely an initiative for like charity rather than... Just got loads of well-known people to bring their old clothes and we hired a church hall and just raised loads of money.

Yeah, yeah.

My first ever trip to LA was going to see Dawn.

And I remember just like literally sashaying off the plane.

I was like, I've made it.

And Caroline was already there.

And it was your apartment that you'd had for a long time in West Hollywood.

And Chris was there and I'd never met Chris.

I think I put a really big clue or something, just like, he's Welsh or something.

Oh, my God.

And then I woke up the next morning to loads of people being like, this is not good.

There's so much trouble.

Because loads of people didn't get the job and didn't realise.

Yeah.

I actually forgot about that.

No, I felt like L.A.

in its la-la-ness had kind of got to capacity for me.

I was so used to East London and suddenly I was in L.A.