Gene Demby

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Oh, always, always a pleasure. Anytime. Be safe out.

Oh, always, always a pleasure. Anytime. Be safe out.

Oh, always, always a pleasure. Anytime. Be safe out.

What's good, everybody? All right, first things first. I'm famously not Brittany Luce, although I aspire to be. I mean, the wardrobe, the glasses. No, I'm actually Gene Demby, one of the co-hosts of NPR's Code Switch. Brittany is out on vacation. Lucky her. But she asked me to jump in because she wanted somebody to be here to help process the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting news with all of you.

What's good, everybody? All right, first things first. I'm famously not Brittany Luce, although I aspire to be. I mean, the wardrobe, the glasses. No, I'm actually Gene Demby, one of the co-hosts of NPR's Code Switch. Brittany is out on vacation. Lucky her. But she asked me to jump in because she wanted somebody to be here to help process the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting news with all of you.

What's good, everybody? All right, first things first. I'm famously not Brittany Luce, although I aspire to be. I mean, the wardrobe, the glasses. No, I'm actually Gene Demby, one of the co-hosts of NPR's Code Switch. Brittany is out on vacation. Lucky her. But she asked me to jump in because she wanted somebody to be here to help process the UnitedHealthcare CEO shooting news with all of you.

And to do that processing, I'm joined by Abine Clayton, who covers gun violence for The Guardian. What's good, Abine?

And to do that processing, I'm joined by Abine Clayton, who covers gun violence for The Guardian. What's good, Abine?

And to do that processing, I'm joined by Abine Clayton, who covers gun violence for The Guardian. What's good, Abine?

All right, so first I got to set the scene a little bit. So it's been over a week since a masked gunman shot and killed Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, outside a Manhattan hotel. This week, authorities identified and detained an alleged gunman, and he's being charged with murder. You've probably heard his name by now, Luigi Mangione.

All right, so first I got to set the scene a little bit. So it's been over a week since a masked gunman shot and killed Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, outside a Manhattan hotel. This week, authorities identified and detained an alleged gunman, and he's being charged with murder. You've probably heard his name by now, Luigi Mangione.

All right, so first I got to set the scene a little bit. So it's been over a week since a masked gunman shot and killed Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, outside a Manhattan hotel. This week, authorities identified and detained an alleged gunman, and he's being charged with murder. You've probably heard his name by now, Luigi Mangione.

And we kind of have to walk a very delicate line here because we're talking about, you know, violence here, a brazen murderer. which is pretty scary to think about for a lot of people. And at the same time, there's been a lot of praise and solidarity for this alleged gunman and his actions. I mean, just listen to some of these reactions.

And we kind of have to walk a very delicate line here because we're talking about, you know, violence here, a brazen murderer. which is pretty scary to think about for a lot of people. And at the same time, there's been a lot of praise and solidarity for this alleged gunman and his actions. I mean, just listen to some of these reactions.

And we kind of have to walk a very delicate line here because we're talking about, you know, violence here, a brazen murderer. which is pretty scary to think about for a lot of people. And at the same time, there's been a lot of praise and solidarity for this alleged gunman and his actions. I mean, just listen to some of these reactions.

The alleged shooter even got his own superhero-esque nickname, with some people on the internet calling him the Adjuster. And on the other end, there are reports of CEOs across industries being scared for their lives, beefing up their security details, removing their identities from their companies' websites.

The alleged shooter even got his own superhero-esque nickname, with some people on the internet calling him the Adjuster. And on the other end, there are reports of CEOs across industries being scared for their lives, beefing up their security details, removing their identities from their companies' websites.

The alleged shooter even got his own superhero-esque nickname, with some people on the internet calling him the Adjuster. And on the other end, there are reports of CEOs across industries being scared for their lives, beefing up their security details, removing their identities from their companies' websites.

All right, Abine, as somebody who covers gun violence, how would you characterize the reactions we've been seeing to this shooting? And how have these reactions been different from the normal reactions to violence?