General James Mattis

I do not believe the regime will fall in the near future.

Now, understand, war is fundamentally unpredictable.

Fundamentally, that is part of war.

So what I'm saying could be completely reversed in 24 hours, but I think it is very unlikely that that regime will fall anytime soon.

I think we're going to have to deal with it.

So how do you deal with it?

I'd suggest that America

has got some of the greatest strengths, our economy, our education system.

We have ways of engaging with the world no other country has.

And yes, we need a very strong military to defend this idea of a democracy.

But at the same time, if we don't use all of our strengths, and there I would point to allies, without them, we're not going to get there.

No.

Well, there are many of the same concerns that we hear from our fellow citizens.

America is becoming predatory.

America is as unreliable.

They say one thing and they change.

seven days later or two days later so there's a sense that we are not a reliable security partner right now the first time nato went to war was after we were attacked and one of the countries that lost as many boys per capita fighting alongside us after america was attacked on 9 11 was denmark

And Denmark is, of course, the country that owns Greenland.

So when you think of a threat against a NATO ally, or when you hear that we're putting tariffs on allies at the same time, we're demanding they increase their defense expenditures, which requires a robust economy.

You're seeing a strategic disconnect.