Geoff Schwartz

I like that, but I think the NFL – I like the two-foot rule in the NFL versus college.

There's a difference in the sport.

I think two feet down feels like you've got to work a little extra harder for that catch.

I saw this this weekend.

I want to say – was it the Indiana game I was watching, Michigan State, where if you catch a ball but your toe and foot hits first and then the heel hits next –

right it's not a catch but it sort of feels like that's not the spirit of what a catch is like he very clearly got his foot down like the control foot down but then his heel hit out on the exit of the play essentially like i don't need a semantics i completely agree with what you're saying right if you tippy toe but you're facing the sideline if you tippy toe it's a good catch if you land on your tippy toes with your with your butt towards the sideline

Ownership?

Right?

I mean, it comes down to ownership, right?

I've never played with them.

I don't know what it is about ownership, but something with ownership.

They don't hire the right coaches.

They don't have the right players.

There's not a buy-in mentality.

Look, I've been fortunate to play for the Giants.

When you walk into the Giants facility, there's four Lombardi trophies that sit there.

And you walk in and you feel the winning.

Now, we didn't win when I was there.

But you feel the need to win, right?

And ownership is there every day.