Geoff the Ref

Look, as soon as a guy flips up in the air, it's just you're in the danger zone straight away, aren't you?

You certainly are.

He's fortunate enough.

that he lands on his back.

If he lands on his neck, his head, and compresses, I mean, it's just a horror show from there.

No idea.

So this is the thing.

Now, what we're going to do also is, before we discuss it, is compare it to this one, which is 28 minutes into Reds versus Crusaders.

Tip tackle.

Angus Gardner, as you can hear him, says no problem.

right so compare the two what is the rule and did Ben O'Keefe get this wrong because you don't see these kind of tackles very often in games and you don't see them because I thought they were outlawed

Well, that'll be the first in Super Rugby this season I've seen a tackle like that.

Did Ben get that wrong in your opinion on that one?

So would that be a penalty or would that be a yellow card?

Yeah, and look, these are two of the top referees in the world, if not the two top referees in the world at the moment.

And so, obviously, they're right.

But it's still a good thing to talk about, isn't it?

That is just such an unusual situation.

But as soon as the guy goes up and over, there is danger.

And there's a difference between a dangerous tackle and somebody trying to hurt somebody and a dangerous tackle because it's clumsy and somebody gets hurt.