Geoffrey Cain

So it was no longer destructive.

It was very constructive.

And he had the right team.

It was a very long period of executive stability, one of the things that we forget.

He got the right board.

He had people who would push back on him.

These were not psychophants who would just do whatever he says because they were scared of him.

He really did a great job of putting together a team that is still studied today in business schools and that went on to create the greatest business comeback

It really is incredible what Steve pulled off.

And, you know, whether we call him a jerk or a genius or whatever it is that we might think of him, he really learned during these years and he really brought a lot of great tech and a lot of great people, people who have shaped Silicon Valley in ways that are still here.

Samsung is not any ordinary business.

South Koreans even have a term for their country.

They call it the Republic of Samsung.

And so this is a company that is just massive by any standard.

It doesn't just make the smartphones and the chips that we all hear about.

They build apartments.

They have a hospital.

And you can literally in South Korea, this is no exaggeration, you could if you wanted to live cradle to the grave on Samsung.

Just literally get a Samsung apartment, watch your Samsung TV.

They do have a Samsung managed graveyard to give another example.