Geoffrey Woo

Everybody's kind of aligning.

And I was like, well, we show up at 9 a.m., and then at 10.55, the production team says five minutes and hits a countdown, and everything has to happen basically in that sub-two hours.

If we had gone and read the book on

television we probably would have started that we would have been we would have been starting the show i listened to the uh the johnny carson episode uh founders yeah i know but that didn't influence like the schedule of the show and that that like to me that's understanding like the the person it influenced me in the sense that i was more comfortable with you permanently living in malibu because johnny carson did

I did when I moved there.

I was like, damn, I retired too early.

Seriously went through like a one-year period where I was like, what did I do?

I remember I'm like there's like cuz everyone all my friends in Malibu.

I love them dearly They'll be like they'll text me like Tuesday 11 a.m.

Go to the beach you

You down to surf right now?

And I'm like, brother.

I'm still trying to work.

Still going.

Still going.

No, that was a...

That was very rough.

In the first year moving there, I loved it, but I was constantly on Zillow looking at places that weren't there.

No, I just felt like I was shooting myself in the foot by not being around people that were in the same state of mind that I was in, which was very much like on the hunt.

No, I mean, part of the beauty of TBPN, it was like the only business in technology that I felt like I could actually build while having that as my primary residence.