George Clooney

The world stopped wanting what she did for a living.

And so by the time she was 23 or 24 years old,

You know, she was going in the wrong direction and she didn't handle it well.

You know, drugs were a big deal.

It started out as sort of Dr. Feelgood giving you sleeping pills and waking up pills.

That time, yeah.

And then she became addicted to that and booze was a big deal.

And she never lost her talent, but she lost a career.

And for, I don't know, 25 or so years, really through the years when I was growing up, no one had heard of Rosemary Clooney when I was a kid in high school.

You know, she was long out of the business.

And then she had this resurgence because talent eventually caught back up.

And she had this beautiful jazz career.

and had this incredible career as a singer late in life.

But it was a really good lesson for me in understanding how little success has to do with you on both sides of the spectrum.

You're not as brilliant as they say you are when things are going well, and they do say that.

And you're not as horrible as they say you are when things aren't going well.

And they do say that.

So it's a very helpful thing to understand that so much of this.

Listen, if we hadn't had a Thursday night time slot, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

That's sort of more than likely what would happen.