George Clooney

And he was like, yeah, not really.

And he had no idea how right he really was.

You know, I think that if you're successful, you do make yourself irrelevant, and that's probably the way it's supposed to be, right?

Well, I was working—I moved to L.A.

in 1981, I guess—

And I really didn't even get a job for the first three years.

So that's a few, it's a hundred auditions that you don't get, a lot of no's.

And then I started getting small parts, guest shots on a TV show or a really low budget film.

in Budapest that no one ever saw and, you know, things like that where I was always bouncing around.

And for about 10 years, I kind of did that and some success.

You know, sometimes you get too much credit when they say you were struggling for 15 years, because the truth is, if you're working at all in my industry, you're beating the odds.

There's, I don't know, a hundred and some thousand members of my union and probably

I think about 5% make about $5,000 a year or more.

It's not a very lucrative, you know, it's a lot of luck takes place.

And I'd done a few shows that, I did a show called Roseanne when it first came out.

It was a huge hit, but I was like the 10th banana on that show.

And then I did the pilot and then ultimately the show when I was 33 years old for ER.

And I'd been banging around long enough.

I'd done seven other television series and 13 television pilots.

And I'd knocked around.