George Clooney

You know, she was long out of the business.

And then she had this resurgence because talent eventually caught back up.

And she had this beautiful jazz career.

and had this incredible career as a singer late in life.

But it was a really good lesson for me in understanding how little success has to do with you on both sides of the spectrum.

You're not as brilliant as they say you are when things are going well, and they do say that.

And you're not as horrible as they say you are when things aren't going well.

And they do say that.

So it's a very helpful thing to understand that so much of this.

Listen, if we hadn't had a Thursday night time slot, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

That's sort of more than likely what would happen.

The reality is I have an assistant and I have a publicist and I have an agent.

I don't have a manager.

I don't have a business manager.

But what I would say is, in fairness, some of those trappings were really, they're products of getting famous young.

Because when you're young, everybody says, well, you have to have a lawyer that takes 5%.

Then you have to have a

a manager that takes 15 or 20%, and then you have to have an agent that takes 10%, and you have to have a publicist, and they go through all these list of things that you need to do, and you do it.

You're like, oh, okay, yeah, of course, that's what I gotta do.

If you're 33 and you're famous,