George Cozma

No, no, no. So Centaur was broken up essentially in 2021, as the Wikipedia article says. VIA still has x86 licensing, but the Centaur team isn't at VIA anymore.

No, no, no. So Centaur was broken up essentially in 2021, as the Wikipedia article says. VIA still has x86 licensing, but the Centaur team isn't at VIA anymore.

I'm talking about a chip that was due for release in 2022.

I'm talking about a chip that was due for release in 2022.

But was canceled just before launch.

But was canceled just before launch.

The iceberg. The iceberg broke the line. So VIA, who was the parent company, basically shuttered the Austin headquarters. And the team was acquired by Intel for $125 million. That's a hell of an acquirer. Yeah. Here's the thing.

The iceberg. The iceberg broke the line. So VIA, who was the parent company, basically shuttered the Austin headquarters. And the team was acquired by Intel for $125 million. That's a hell of an acquirer. Yeah. Here's the thing.

was expecting it and it was very um the amount of information that has been shared about it has been close to zero interesting and if you ask anyone that formerly was there they they don't say anything it's it's kind of weird okay interesting and so then in via i didn't realize that via was an x86 license holder

was expecting it and it was very um the amount of information that has been shared about it has been close to zero interesting and if you ask anyone that formerly was there they they don't say anything it's it's kind of weird okay interesting and so then in via i didn't realize that via was an x86 license holder

So they had licenses from IDT, which is what Centaur used to be, and Cyrex, because they acquired Cyrex. Right. So they had licensing, and I think they still technically do, which is how Zhaoxin, which is a Chinese x86 manufacturer, has the ability to make x86 CPUs, which that's a whole history in and of itself.

So they had licenses from IDT, which is what Centaur used to be, and Cyrex, because they acquired Cyrex. Right. So they had licensing, and I think they still technically do, which is how Zhaoxin, which is a Chinese x86 manufacturer, has the ability to make x86 CPUs, which that's a whole history in and of itself.

But the reason why I brought them up is because what was supposed to be their newest course, CNS, was supposed to have had ABX 512 capabilities, but it was a very bare-bones implementation of ABX 512.

But the reason why I brought them up is because what was supposed to be their newest course, CNS, was supposed to have had ABX 512 capabilities, but it was a very bare-bones implementation of ABX 512.

And if the eCourse had had a bare-bones implementation,

And if the eCourse had had a bare-bones implementation,

Yeah. Alexander Yee, the creator of Y Cruncher, did a very good write-up on Zen 5's AVX 5.12 implementation. Oh, yeah. And he went very, very into it and basically said, yeah, this is the best AVX 5.12 implementation so far.

Yeah. Alexander Yee, the creator of Y Cruncher, did a very good write-up on Zen 5's AVX 5.12 implementation. Oh, yeah. And he went very, very into it and basically said, yeah, this is the best AVX 5.12 implementation so far.

That's part of it. Another part is just the increase in the number of registers. They doubled the number of registers. Yeah. They made a lot of ops single cycle, which is nice. There were some trade-offs that were made. Some of the integer stuff was made to cycle, which was a bit of a cavity in the tooth, so to speak, fly in the ointment. But other than that, it's...

That's part of it. Another part is just the increase in the number of registers. They doubled the number of registers. Yeah. They made a lot of ops single cycle, which is nice. There were some trade-offs that were made. Some of the integer stuff was made to cycle, which was a bit of a cavity in the tooth, so to speak, fly in the ointment. But other than that, it's...