George Knapp
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Well, it's always been characterized as an attack with no motive, but this was a sampling operation. This was an investigation where they were collecting samples of blood and tissue from all these people. And, you know, so many of them ended up in hospitals, hundreds of them, most of the in the same hospital. All those records vanished.
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The Brazilian Air Force files at the time, the Brazilian government was a military junta. They had taken over and there were reporters that we tracked down. There's one really great guy named Carlos who was on the scene while the investigation was underway. The military reached out to his publication, the biggest newspaper in Brazil, and told him, knock it off.
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He kept digging anyway, but they wouldn't publish this stuff anymore. All those files went into a vault somewhere and were put away, and the Brazilian people and the rest of the world didn't get to see it for 20, 25 years, and then they started releasing it. There were a couple of ufologists in there who petitioned the government.
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After the military government was gone and the civilian government was in there, they had their own version of a FOIA, and they released some of this stuff, but didn't release all of it. Those files, here's where it leads to Las Vegas. Those files, when the DIA's secret program, OSAP, which was based here in Las Vegas, the largest acknowledged UFO investigation, ever funded by the U.S.
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government. Right here in my backyard, Bigelow and his team, who had the contract for the DIA, sent teams to Brazil multiple times. They got the files. They brought back everything. And it went into this DIA vault from the Brazilian vault. And I got to see it. Now, I'm not, I didn't have a clearance. I wasn't supposed to see it.
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But I was friends with these guys and I co-wrote two books with the two guys who managed the program. And the Calaris files were essentially a big part of it. They did studies. They dug into it. Jacques Vallée, the great Jacques Vallée, was the only Western investigator I know that had gone to Calaris on his own back closer to when these events had occurred.
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And he actually dug up that same information that largely got ignored, that this was a sampling operation, not an attack.
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Yeah, I'd never heard that before. But we went to Tampico and met with the locals. They have aliens everywhere. In Mitch, the same thing happened in Calaris. They were scared to death. Hundreds of people left their homes, just split, and then eventually came back. And now they've sort of embraced the whole UFO idea.
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They've got little landmarks and gift shops and alien images all over the place in that town. And I think they're still nervous about the idea that it might happen again. Oh, sure. And there have been. different outbreaks of similar activity there. And the same thing was in Tampico. They believe that there's some kind of base under the water.
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We helped look for, did some sampling of water to see if there's something in it. Talked to the local meteorologist who said, yeah, it's kind of a coincidence. The folklore is that there's an alien base that protects us from hurricanes. And we looked at the records. There have been hurricanes that sort of Got close, but all the big ones skipped right past it.
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And it's just a very odd coincidence over a long period of time.
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You know, I'll just give you my opinion. I've been pretty far up the food chain, and you guys and I have talked about this before, and trying to figure out, is there anybody that really knows for sure? And the answer is no. Yeah. You know, gone pretty far up there. There are different ideas.
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The smartest people in the world who had access to the best information and evidence believe that the most likely answer is there are multiple different forms of non-human intelligence that have visited us. Some of them could even be from the future, us from the future coming back. to see where things went wrong. Extraterrestrials is still into the mix.
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That was the dominant paradigm when I started a long time ago.
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Well, you know, there's these things called von Neumann probes. We've talked about doing it. Send these probes out and eventually we'd like them to be self-reproducing so that they can take different forms and stay out over long periods of time and look for people like us. So extraterrestrial is still in the mix. Interdimensional is in the mix.
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And then there are some people that talk about pretty exotic ideas that kind of go over my head. Ultra terrestrials, something like essentially gods. Yeah. that have always been here that are not even physical anymore that could intervene in, in our world, in our reality, in a physical way when they want to and play games with us.
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But in large part, I would have to say that the overall effect is, is kind of positive. I mean, most of the people I talk to now, we went to Phoenix and we'll get into that if you want, but the Phoenix lights folks, this didn't cut. There's a lot of stuff we shot that didn't make the cut, but we
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It started here in Nevada. Now, that didn't make this show, the episode either, but the first sightings was here over at Henderson, Nevada and Lake Mead. And then a couple hours later, it was over Phoenix and then New Mexico and then Texas. That was not flares. No.
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tried to deny it then they tried to cover it up and and muddy the waters i've even heard a story that it was some kind of a large dirigible uh privately owned well if some guy flies that dirigible over an international airport right next to a u.s air force base there's going to be hell to pay yeah it was trouble it was something else and the interviews we did with the
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people who are closest to that Phoenix Lights, whose lives were transformed, didn't make the series. Maybe next year if there's another part two, but their lives changed dramatically. Their stories were really moving to me and I had never heard them before. You know, I knew about the attempted cover-up and muddy the water stuff, and we got to, I think, got pretty close to the truth on that.
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But how it transformed people's lives in a positive way. We heard the same thing from folks in Tampico. You know, the people in Oregon, they had the cattle mutilations, the latest outbreak. It is ongoing, by the way. They don't see it in a very positive way. It's been nothing but scary and bad and financially disastrous for them. But in general...
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We know that these beings, wherever they're from, maybe from multiple places, have incredible technological capabilities. They could cause serious harm if they wanted to. They shut down nuclear weapons. They've enabled nuclear weapons. They've tried to get us to pay attention and take care of our planet. They could obviously do bad things if they wanted to. They haven't done it yet.
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And for a lot of people that we encountered in all these travels, it is overall a very positive experience, these encounters.
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You hear people say who've tried DMT and who've encountered aliens or people who do psilocybin, how it changes their outlook, like basically forever.
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I think that that's comparable to what these UFO encounters, the effects it's had on a lot of people.
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Yeah, there's a lot of speculation on whether that was timed, whether we had something to do with it. They originally the date was going to be the day of the hearing. They didn't know there was going to be a hearing on that date when they're done to release it. And I told them they changed it. I don't know. They moved it up, but it was not done on purpose that way.
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It's just when they got it done, it was ready to go. I did not see the finished episodes until they were done. I didn't get to see, you know, what had been left in and what had been left out. I was happy overall. But, you know, I know people won't believe this, but as a guy who works in television, I don't like being on television. I don't like to have my face on it.
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So it was painful for me to watch some of that stuff. Look at that doddering old fart stuff.
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you look good dude you actually like you you do look badass you've aged well you've aged very well i just took me two weeks to get through those episodes but i you know and i there's things i would do differently because i'm a news guy but those people really know how to put together a tv show there's producers that were worked on it and the the photographers and the technical folks man they were just top-notch professionals so they put out a good product it's just painful some of the things that
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didn't get in that I hope we'll get to make public in some other platform.
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Yeah, we could talk about the congressional hearing or Immaculate Constellation.
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Well, Jeremy Corbell and I have been in communication with some people about this for a while. I'm not going to say an individual or anything like that, but there had been a lot of communication. And then there was a report that was prepared that Jeremy took to D.C. I was stuck here in Las Vegas working for KLS. I couldn't make that trip. I did some stories on it from afar, but...
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Yeah, it is a Department of Defense program initiative that is hidden inside sort of the structure under the White House. So it's not foiable. You couldn't find it. DOD can stand there and say, we don't have a program by that name because officially it is housed somewhere else and you can't access it.
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But that program, using this AI-type software, would scour all these classified programs and platforms, scoop up the good stuff, and take it over here and keep it out of public view. That material still exists on classified servers for other agencies. It doesn't disappear, but the best stuff goes over there so that somebody can analyze it. And this...
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These people that were involved in it had shared this information with us, warned us that, boy, you talk about this, use this code name and say it out loud. You are going to be subject to surveillance. And I'm going, oh, you know, it's not exactly a new thing here. Yeah. I mean, I'm in this. Oh, don't threaten me with that.
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Yeah. So. Jeremy has taken it a step further. He was willing to bring the person in. In fact, I think I wouldn't be surprised if he had actually made that introductions in person. And so get this document wanted to have he was willing to get this person to show up as a surprise witness and testify. And they said no.
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And then when he gives them this report with his cover page, his name, my name on it, we're giving this to you so you can put it on the record. Suddenly, the next morning, when this all goes public, they take the top cover page off, introduce it, and the committee... Thanks, Michael Schellenberger, for giving it to him. And he says, oh, yeah, no problem.
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Michael Schellenberger is a great guy, good guy, good journalist. But he'd never seen that report. The night before the hearing, Jeremy showed it to him. He'd never seen it. Jeremy introduces it, gives it to Congress, and then they thank Michael Schellenberger for doing it. And they announced, as you saw, a couple of really strange statements.
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We were told that we can't ask questions about certain things. And they didn't, you know, they didn't take it where we thought it should go. They didn't even mention that There had been an offer to bring this person in and to testify under oath. They just they kept asking the same kind of questions they always do. It was very odd. Let me just say this, though.
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Anytime you have an congressional hearing, something that important and that weighty, that platform, that's a good step. I applaud those members of Congress for taking the step and having the courage to take on a topic that has been subjected to scorn and derision and stigma for so long. There is risk to them in doing that.
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So anytime you have a congressional hearing and ask questions and have somebody like Lou Elizondo there and say, yeah, we have UAP recovery efforts. Yeah, there is a reverse engineering program. It is hidden. It's real. That's good to get that on the record. The stuff with the Immaculate Constellation just left a sour taste in my mouth.
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But still, I applaud Congress for having this and for agreeing to take a next step. What I don't understand is there's an underlying subtext here that's going on. And... It's really caused me some sleepless nights. I think Jeremy's had the same reaction.
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Other bits and pieces of the Trump administration to come, people who have been very outspoken about UAP transparency, now will be confirmed in really high positions. We have the tech bros coming in, promising to gut the federal budget, move things around. Obviously, we're going to see a lot of money that is in defense programs, I think, be transferred to space programs.
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And I'm wondering if some of those tech people and space people have influenced what Congress was doing there that are shaping that.
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Well, there is a report that was prepared as part of the OSAP program. One of the documents that I made public and that is now in the public realm, one of the only things from OSAP that was made public is about injuries that happen. And some of them are just coincidental.
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this is physical injuries. People who are in proximity to these craft have serious health consequences. There's, I'll give you a name, a name of one of them, John Burroughs, the Rendlesham forest thing. He got too close to this craft. It had long-term health consequences for him. Senator John McCain is the guy who went to bat for him because the Pentagon said, now this is in your head.
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It's not real. McCain went to bat for him and got him those benefits and other people have them as well. In that OSAP report that it was a dirt is what it's called. Um, They listed a number of injuries to civilians and military folks with their encounters with these UFOs. One of the cases that we had in that book, you mentioned, skinwalkers at the Pentagon, these blue orbs.
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A woman and her daughter driving through, I think it's Oregon, dark at night by themselves, a dark, lonely road. See these two blue orbs off in a field. The daughter mentions it to mom, who's driving, and as soon as she mentions it, these things... react. They suddenly are aware that there's a car there. They fly toward the car, come into the passenger compartment.
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One of these blue orbs goes into mom's chest on one side and pops out on the other side. And there were health consequences for her that kicked in a couple of hours later when she got home. There was a physician's, as part of RSAP,
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who monitored her health progress over the next two years and these injuries are real and they do happen it's not like these ufos are trying to kill her i think they were trying to learn something about her and um and that was some sort of information gathering program again it wasn't not necessarily an attack but it had consequences for her and there are a lot of cases like that and now congress knows about them but there's there's so much more information that was when i was there last year
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My statement that I submitted to him, I said, look, there's a gigantic storehouse of information that the taxpayers paid for that you have never seen, not one page of it. These reports are sometimes 140, 200 page long. There's one 143 page analysis of the Tic Tac by engineers and physicists, and it has never been made public, not one page of it.
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But if they tried to get it, I haven't heard about it.
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Well, we do have some triangles. You know, the NIDS, which was based here, Bigelow's organization, was the precursor to the OSAP program. This was a private effort funded entirely by Robert Bigelow, brought together all these ex-spooks, CIA guys, UFO luminaries, academics, some really big people. Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon, was part of it. Harrison Schmidt, U.S.
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senator at the time, the last man to walk on the moon. He was part of it. I remember I was the speaker who was the first one to speak to that group, the first meeting that they had to tell them about Russia and the Russia files. I walked in and I was just blown away by the quality of people who are there.
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NIDS did its own study of the triangles, and they think that at least some of them are ours because of how they tracked them, where they were going. But they couldn't understand why you would do that. Why would you expose... top-secret programs by flying right over an interstate highway over big cities. Some of it didn't make sense.
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Colm Kelleher, my longtime friend, has a theory about what he calls bi-direction mimicry, is that we see them and we try to match their technology, and sometimes they see us and do the same thing. Black helicopters, some of these black helicopters that show up at UFO scenes and at cattle mutilations, they're not helicopters. They look like helicopters.
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And I think the same thing is happening right now with these drones appearing over Air Force bases and sensitive military platforms. UK, right now, as we speak, these things are buzzing, highly sensitive installations where nuclear weapons are stored and nobody can do anything about it. They can't bring them down.
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There are legal difficulties in shooting missiles or something like that at a drone and and knock it out of the sky, especially in a populated area. And there are international rules about those kind of things. But I can tell you this. They have tried to shoot them down and they can't and they don't know where they come from. Suddenly they're there. They can't track who's controlling them.
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You should be able to do that, but you can't. And then suddenly they're gone and you don't know where they go. Now, that's pretty scary. They use this term drones as if, well, you know, you went to Walmart and bought these things. That's not what they are. And, you know, I guess people try to say they must be Chinese. Well, I'd say that somebody really dropped the ball if they have made a
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A technological leap like that. And we didn't see it coming. And now they're flying with impunity over sensitive installations all over. And we don't know who they are or how this technology works. And we can't do a damn thing about it. I think it's them building things that look like drones, biomimicry and bidirectional mimicry in the opposite direction.
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You know, we don't know what their timeframe is. So for them, you know, we think the modern UFO era is last 75, 80 years. For them, that might be a weekend. You know, they don't worry about years as we do. And if they have the ability to travel through time, they worry about it even less. I suspect that they live here, that they've always lived here, that it's their planet too.
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Those alien editorials that they give to people where they say, Knock it off with the nuclear weapons and please take care of your planet. Quit poisoning it. It's because it's their planet too. Or maybe they have a long-term plan that they need it to be in one piece and not a smoldering nuclear radiated wasteland. I think that by going into the ocean, by hiding and keeping, they don't have to have
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as many confrontations with us as possible, but sometimes they'll do a Phoenix Lights kind of a demonstration to tell us, yeah, we're here. We're not attacking you, but we're here and we want you to keep it in mind. I think that we only see them when they allow us to see them. It's like the Tic Tac. The Tic Tac was so theatrical in a way
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It's zipping around over something really big in the ocean, something that was about the size of a 747. And then Dave Fravor flies down near it to take a look, and it reacts to him. Oh, what are you doing here? We didn't know there was a giant naval flotilla right in this area that's been there for two weeks. Gosh, I'd better get out of here.
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And then it zips off and it goes to the cap point where they were supposed to be, where all these flights were supposed to go next. It's there already waiting for them, playing games. I think... They allowed us to see it. I think we only saw the tic-tac because they took the shields down at that moment and allowed us to see it.
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Because they want us to know they're there, and there's a long-term socialization process for humans to get used to it. You know, the Brookings Institute did that study in 1960. It was kept quiet for a long time, but they said, if we have confirmed... contact with a more technologically advanced civilization, it would have dire consequences. Our social institutions would crumble.
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People would panic. It would be really creeped out just by announcing that. The same kind of thing that happens when Europeans get to North America. What happened to the people who are already here who are less sophisticated? So the answer to it was a long-term program of socialization.
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And whether or not this has been done on purpose, it sure as hell looks like this is how it would go if you were doing it on purpose. Movies, TV, books, aliens, they're real. Sometimes they're just our little buddies like E.T. Yeah, they're cute. Why worry about this stuff? You know, so... I don't know. You know, I think about this stuff a lot, obviously. Of course.
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I don't have the answers, but I feel, since that Netflix thing, I feel a little bit better about the whole process and what might happen.
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Well, I have it because, you know, it's like I would learn things about OSAP and about NIDS that helps me, even though I can't go public with it, it helps me understand the playing field. It allows me to know who is completely full of shit and making stuff up sometimes.
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So, and when I get material like that, there are conditions attached to it and I honor those conditions, but my intention is always, I'm going to find a way to get this out at some point. You know, Skinwalker Ranch, I was hearing that from my friends at NIDS. They bought it in 96 and I start hearing what they're doing. I wasn't able to, I kept pestering them, let me go.
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It was seven years before I could print a word. And with OSAP, it was longer than that. It was 10 years. I said all that stuff because I had agreed to do it. And it allowed me to have a nose under the tent and to learn things about the big picture and to be able to report other things in the context of what I knew to be true. So it was valuable.
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Anything I have, it's because someday I want to report it. And I have been able to report a lot of things that I never thought I'd be able to release. So everything that I've got here, I've got some cool stuff if you want to see it.
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I collect a lot of UFO-related artwork. And if you ever get to my house, you'll see it. Can you see that? Whoa, what is that? That's me riding a flying saucer.
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That's very George Clinton of you. A little local artist had done that and then put it up for sale. I think it was on display at City Hall. They knew damn good and well I'd come get it just so it didn't fall into the wrong hands.
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These are lobby cards for movies. Oh, yeah. Lobby cards. There's a whole market in this. This is from Invasion of the Body Snatchers, signed by Kevin McCarthy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I have a thing about mantises that we could talk about. These are lobby cards from The Deadly Mantis. I don't know if you ever saw that movie.
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There's a friend of mine who's a very talented artist and sculptor, Jeff Taylor. He had made Kirk Douglas like this and takes it to these model companies and model shows and sells them. And he had traded a Kirk Douglas for this alien when he saw it. You can't see it, but close up. It's got veins and stuff. Yeah, it looks good. It's wild. I would wear pants if I was this guy. I'd wear pants.
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It tells you when you lose weight, you look worse. In that section of this, you can't see it, are books. That's a big stack of books. This pile are ones I have to read. This pile is ones for the radio show. These are books I have read that I haven't figured out where to put yet. Yeah, this is my life.
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Russia stuff, that's, you know, I made two trips to Russia in the 90s and brought back a lot of stuff. Some of it was not classified. Some of it was classified and I had to be really careful about how I got it out of the country. Yeah.
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Just a lot of mutilation stuff. A lot of this is government files. A lot of it are case files that I got from police agencies. There were a bunch of cattle mutilations here in Nevada in the 70s before I even started doing this stuff. So I went out and got local lawmen to share photos with me and the original police reports and a lot of newspaper clippings.
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That's what you need. You need an intern in here, man. Yeah, probably so. This is a really interesting case. Las Vegas fireball. So April 18th, 1962, which is my birthday, not the right year, but that date. That's my wife's birthday. This fireball, it comes in over Cuba, comes into their atmosphere over Cuba, goes all the way up the Eastern seaboard.
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It gets to about New York and it takes an abrupt turn and then goes all the way across the United States. fighter jets were chased, were dispatched to go chase it, couldn't keep up with it. It gets to Utah and it lands in this little town, knocks out the power to the whole town, takes off again, and then gets over Nevada, just outside of, in between Las Vegas and Mesquite and explodes.
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And that fireball was seen, was so big, it was seen all over the West. I tracked down the guy who is when I first started. I tracked down the guy who led the posse out to look for wreckage. They thought it was an airplane at first. He's long gone now. And then I got the original Blue Book reports and they said it was a meteor, you know.
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A meteor comes in as up the eastern seaboard, takes a left turn, 90 degree turn. And lands. Lands, takes off again. So that would be a cool. I dug up the not only the Blue Book records, but all the newspaper accounts at the same time.
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This is a file on Howard Cannon. Howard Cannon was the U.S. senator from Nevada. Everybody says Harry Reid, you know, he did great things. And I have had a 30 year secret conversation with him and he helped me immensely. And I helped him and got him involved in the subject.
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And he got it on that the funding that made for OSAP, which led to AATIP, which led to the UAP task force, which is why this congressional hearings are happening in the first place. It happened here. It started with Reid. His predecessor, though, four term Senator Howard Cannon, who had was like the father of Nellis Air Force Base.
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He was very close to the guys from Lockheed, had a deep interest in UFOs that he never spoke about publicly. But I did talk to him before he died. And he had been his closest friend in the Senate was Barry Goldwater. You've heard those stories about Barry Goldwater. He wanted to go to the Blue Room at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. He'd heard about these flying saucers. I want to see it.
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I'm the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee or Intelligence Committee. I've got the highest clearances. I want to go. Yeah, well, look, yeah. Yeah. Well, it turns out Howard Cannon, his buddy, had also tried to go. And he told me, I asked him about it. He said, yeah, Barry wanted to go. And I did, too. But he says, look, what would be the point? You get in there and see it.
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You couldn't tell anybody what you see, it. And he said, and people would call you crazy. But he was... People already call me crazy.
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A lot of files related to NIDS and OSAP. So the Skinwalker Ranch, I got boxes and boxes of Skinwalker Ranch stuff, but there was another ranch, one in Colorado where the same kind of things happen. And the guys from NIDS and then into OSAP did surveys of other places. One of the reasons I was allowed to go to Skinwalker was that the phenomena had gone underground for a while.
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And they thought by me going there and doing a story about it, it might alert them to where other hotspots could be that they could study. It did. There were several. There was Sedona, Yakima, Washington, Dulce, New Mexico. And they sent teams and were there on the ground for months and months.
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A lot of it comes from looking for it. You know, you have to be willing to look. If you put the kind of effort that NIDS and then OSAP did, and now Brandon Fugle and his team, and focused on one area, you might find a whole heck of a lot of stuff everywhere that there's some degree or another. Now, it's higher at Skinwalker.
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Part of what I could not release was there are files where these investigators, boots on the ground, not at the ranch. They went everywhere around the ranch.
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in his concentric circles further and further out, they talked to hundreds of people around there that had nothing to do with Bigelow, who shared their stories of creature encounters that were just crazy, off-the-wall ridiculous, gargoyles that looked like what's on top of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris.
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on top of a trailer a mile away from Skinwalker Ranch, broad daylight, woman and her husband seeing this stuff. They didn't want their names used, which is one reason that this stuff has never been released and may never be released. But there are so many weird creatures and activities. They saw so many, they were able to make a map of what the routes are used by these various creatures.
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Werewolves, dino beavers, things that are ridiculous. No scientist, no government investigator wants to be the guy who goes and chases down stories of werewolves. But the point of OSAP was you follow the evidence where it leads. They're there to study UFOs and figure out why they keep appearing so often. Do you just ignore the fact that
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Every single one of the government investigators who went there took something home with them that was an outbreak of weird shit at their homes. Wolf men, creatures, orbs inside their house, shadow beings. There's one guy whose name will come out later, but it happened to him at the ranch. Immediately, his family started seeing these creatures.
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Broad daylight, wolf men out in their yard leaning on a tree. Who do you even tell that to?
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It normally happened to him and his family right after he came back. It's continuing now. It's continuing 11, 12 years after he was there on the ranch. And it's normally one house. He sold one house on the East Coast and then moved to a different state. His kids moved into that house. It's still happening to them there. And it's happening to he and his wife in the state where they moved him.
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Lazar on Area 51. I don't know that anyone's ever going to admit that that was real. If there is element 115, a piece of it somewhere, it would really be pretty cool to get that confirmed in a way that could be publicly acknowledged. I think that would be my white whale, because that was my point of entry for this. Yeah.
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I took so much grief over it still due to some extent, but, um, it, it, it made my skin a lot tougher and thicker. And, um, and I think it, it helped to, um, put a bar under my saddle and inspire me to stick with it because I was so pissed off at how not just I was treated. It was more about the topic.
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You know, it's really it's kind of come full circle with Netflix because the stigma was so real back then. I had all kinds of journalists, newspapers, other broadcasters who made fun of me, editorial cartoons and all that. I don't mind. I'm a grown man. I can handle that. It comes with the territory. But they'd never done any of the work.
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They'd never gone out there hundreds of nights in a row and to go out near Area 51 to see what's flying around or interviewed the witnesses or filed FOIA complaints or read the documents, reams of documents that were already publicly available. They never did any of that. What they could do is make wisecracks. Look, there's Elvis coming back from the dead on a flying saucer.
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And I just couldn't understand it. So my main goal back in those days, starting, and it's still true to this day, was to get other journalists to take it seriously. And now it's happening. There's a whole new generation of people who now find they can pursue this topic.
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They can put together news reports and newspaper accounts and the stories get past their editors and it's taken seriously and it's being looked at in Congress. That Netflix thing, what appealed to me about it, I didn't really want to go travel the world and leave my wife at home for all those months and everything by herself. But I wanted to be able to have a global platform.
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That's really what it was, is to reach the whole world. Just like you said, you weren't up to speed on it. That was the point of it, to get the public up to speed. It wasn't created for UFO world, because I know that they're going to bitch and moan and whine about it no matter what.
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tour with an alien and they're still going to be like fake or whatever they're going to be exactly arrive at the washington hearing in bob lazar's flying saucer sport bottle with a nine foot tall alien and walk in and they'd be gone come on now how do we know he's from alpha centauri you know where's his birth certificate yeah exactly yeah does he have an only fans yeah immediately but i really that would be that would be my white whale if they could somehow we could figure out a way to confirm all that stuff
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I am comfortable with the idea that I'll die before I know ultimately what the truth is. I'm okay with that because the journey has been so worthwhile, learning about how government works, how the military, how they operate and spread disinformation and muddy the waters to keep this secret. They're good at their job. They're better at their job than I am at mine. But you have to try. Right.
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And even though we don't learn everything, we do know we have the locations of where some of the stuff is stashed, the goodies. We know about it. Can't just knock on the door and say, let me in. But Congress knows where some of it is, too. Um, so that's a, that's a big step. That's a lot of progress. And I am not an optimist at all. I'm, I'm the pessimist.
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I'm the one that says they are never going to release this stuff. After that, that last arrow report, not this one that just came out, but last year's, it became very clear that they dismissed all those witnesses. They made an appeal to all these whistleblowers. Come on in, tell us your stuff, bring us your evidence.
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It seemed like it was a counterintelligence operation to identify who the leaks are, who they need to nullify, who they need to keep an eye on. And then they dismissed it all.
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Just, you know, Sean Kirkpatrick went on his own speaking tour, kind of given all these interviews, dismissing all these really honorable people who came in, risked their reputations to share the truth and then got dumped on.
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But but I am a little bit optimistic by what I've been seeing over the last couple of weeks and hearing from pretty high up folks who think there's going to be an announcement of some kind. I've heard that every year for 37 years since I've been involved in this subject. And I've never believed it and never thought it was going to be true.
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I have at least a little bit of hope that maybe we're on the cusp of something here now.
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Well, I hope so. I mean, you know, I could tell you the reaction to that Netflix thing. Holy cow. I mean, I get a lot of email, usually a thousand a day, something like that. It's doubled. I got messages so far today from South Africa, from Bali, Denmark, Paris, Scotland, Paraguay.
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I've got them from Costa Rica, Brazil, Chile, Mexico, Canada, Tasmania, Morocco, Australia, Zimbabwe, Ireland, Iceland, Sweden. a lot of them with videos attached and photos and incredible stories. I've had offers from ex-military, ex-intelligence guys, professionals in all kinds of fields, commercial pilots, all them offering to help because they saw that series.
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And so it really is kind of an encouraging reaction because the response has been overwhelmingly positive. And it's exactly what I hope to accomplish and what these producers and the Netflix folk hope to accomplish.
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I would like to have a longer period of time to prepare the public.
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Always great to talk to you.
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Well, my manhood is on full display in that, so I'm not sure the audience is ready for it. You know, I also have a career as an interior decorator. Oh, wow.
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Always glad to talk to you guys. And I appreciate talking about this show. It was one heck of a project. I wouldn't get into it, but man, it was, it wore my, you can see it from some of those shots in there that my saggy old carcass was dragging there by the end of it.
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There are other interviews and other trips we made that didn't make the cut. We got so many great interviews, so many great location shots. It was too much to fit even in six episodes. So there's a lot of things that didn't make it that would be a great series by itself.
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Yeah, I just want to party at your house. Yeah. That wasn't the plan from the beginning. They built an alternative office for me in LA. They took a bunch of my stuff, put it in the basement of this old building. So you see an office there, and then we switch back to the real thing that goes back and forth. But they wanted to shoot it there. They ended up coming here maybe 10 times.
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And look, my place is a mess. The bunker down here is filled with...
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to organize this stuff? I remember at the start of the pandemic, you know, when Zoom suddenly happened and I start seeing people on social media rating, rate your room kind of stuff. I thought, oh shit, please don't do that to my house. They finally got around to it. And somebody, I think they were very kind. This poor old dartering old fart is obviously a hoarder.
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We're not going to be too mean to him. They gave me like a three out of 10 and that was generous.
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It is. And I'm a little bit of a technophobe anyway. I mean, I have so many stories that I have written and then lost into the ether that I save files. I save physical files and I can find it. You know, I don't have to worry about it disappearing from my computer or the internet. A lot of stuff does disappear online. And a lot of it is mistakes that I would make myself. But...
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Funny stuff happens there. So I want to be able to physically grab stuff.
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There are some, you know, some great cases, some historic cases that I've always been interested in. And some of that material has made its way into my hands. And I'll tell you about that. Here's how the project sort of unfolded. 2022, a producer who had been working with Netflix and knew all their executives introduced himself and said, hey, these guys are thinking about.
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funding their own UFO project. At that point, they had probably had a hundred proposed series from all kinds of filmmakers and production companies, and they turned them down and they wanted their own. So they sent this guy, his name is Angus James. He had his own production company. They sent him to meet with me.
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And the first thing he did is he went to AlienCon, that big event in LA, where I was on stage five or six times for really big events. So if they're going to come to check me out, that was a good time to do it. I interviewed... Jay Stratton and Travis Taylor about the UAP Task Force. They had never spoken about it in public. I was on with Giorgio talking about ancient aliens.
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I was on with Skinwalker folks. The reaction from the audience was pretty positive about me. So they felt pretty good and pitched me on the series. And I didn't need much more on my plate. It was already pretty full. You know, we had already I just launched this podcast with Jeremy. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah. And at that time we just started, I was flying to LA twice a month. I don't travel all that well. The idea that the Netflix would be added to that. I'm still doing the coast to coast AM.
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And I'm, I am still the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV and they will, they want stories from me as often as I can provide them.
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Yeah, I did three stories last week for November sweeps about mob related topics, mob stuff, historical things, but new angles, new information about mob figures. And so, yeah, I'm still the chief investigative reporter there. I got the coast to coast, do the weaponized. We put a book out with Colm Kelleher and Jim McCaskey. And, you know, I was pretty busy.
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And now, by the way, this Netflix thing, they thought it might take 30 days to shoot it. I thought, well, I can handle that. Ended up being 14 months. We traveled all over the place. 14 months.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, when they pitched that idea, I thought, oh, yeah, for sure. I'd been to Brazil before, but I'd never been to Calaras. And Calaras is such a cool case. It's mythical in the UFO world. It's, you know, it's an outlier because people were attacked. And the story that's gone out through Western media to the world is.
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largely forgotten, except for UFO folks who are into the topic. But the story that went out is alien ships came out of the river and out of the sky and attacked these poor villagers and panicked them. And hundreds of people were injured. Partially true. But, you know, we were able to track down some of those original victims, witnesses. There was a lady named Aurora.
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She was just a teenager at the time. Her photo was sort of the face of Calaras. It went out all over the world. Her in a hospital. Mm hmm. showing this injury on her shoulder. And most of the witnesses who were interviewed said it was a burn, like a laser beam. Well, we found out by talking to them directly. They had not done interviews before in all these years.
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And by finding them and getting them to go on camera, they told us what had happened is there were beams of light that were shot at them, but inside the beam of light were these filaments and these hooks. Now, some of them got burned when the lights hit. Some of them had these filaments that stuck in their chest, and it took blood and tissue samples out.
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Most of the people who were hit that way suffered from anemia. It was a loss of blood. They got dizzy. Hundreds of them scattered out of Calaris, and then the event spread. to at least 20 other cities, little tiny towns in there. There were probably 2,000 people altogether that were injured as a result of this episode. The Brazilian Air Force came in, launched an investigation, went to Colares.
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Officially, they said they were there for four months and then it all went away. They were there for 15 or 16 months, produced more than 1,000 pages of documents and reports, And as we found out on this trip, there's a boat owner who ferried them out every day during these months out to this spot in the Amazon Delta there where these Air Force guys were trying to communicate with whatever it was.
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This spot is where these things kept coming in and out of the water, and they were trying to communicate. And as we learned in that series, if you guys saw it, there were a couple of Americans playing suit, guys who didn't say much, but they brought along some kind of a screen that
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that when you tilted it up to the sky, if you use your eyeballs, you don't see anything, but you tilt this up and they can see these spaceships. And then as this captain told us, he'd never been interviewed by anyone. He told us that there was communication, there was some kind of language. that recordings were made of this strange language that he could not could not identify.
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He said these Brazilian Air Force guys were scared after days of this. They gave him a piece, a firearm. And so I don't know how this is going to go. But if if shit hits the fan, you've got to be ready to jump in and help defend yourself. And so, you know, that's all I've been waiting for.
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That sounds like something out of a John Wick movie or something.
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Just world out there. OK, you're there for a while. You do that for how many years?
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We've heard of that office. We have heard of that office. Was it a different sort of work or the same thing, just for a different boss?
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So you're working for a contractor, but you're working at the Pentagon on Pentagon business. And that's sort of a model that is used for all kinds of programs, right?
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Is that to have a buffer of some sort? Why is it?
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So you get to be familiar with stovepipes and how, you know, you could be working on this and the guy may be in the office next to you or the desk next to you is working on something else and you don't know what they're working on.
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You got a company. It's a contractor that's working there in the Pentagon. How much oversight is there from the actual Pentagon, the military of a contractor's work?
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And is that generally true for all the contractor programs that we'll be getting into later, that somebody in the military or IC is looking at what that contractor does? No, I couldn't say. Right. Yeah, I could not say. We got the one degree, and then you went on to try to get a master's.
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Right. I'm curious about just what it's like to work at the Pentagon. I mean, to think you're driving to work. There it is, the heart and soul of the national security of our country. You're doing important work. Weapons of mass destruction in the biggest office building in the world. I would think it would be a lot of satisfaction in that, but I wonder what day-to-day is like.
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Are you under surveillance? Do you have to do polygraphs? Can you tell your wife what you're doing? Do you socialize with colleagues, or do you have to worry about what you say to whom and where?
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Right in front of you. You're not getting a job at the Pentagon because you want to get access to the UFO scene. No, no.
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ally or adversary. You don't go over the deep end. You're not going to MUFON conferences. You're not wearing a beanie and alien stuff on your head. No, no.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Did you ever work nine to five? Because you're kind of a workaholic, right? And you go over the top.
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Which is also how you found out information about the topic we're going to discuss. I delved too deeply. And you came across this sort of accident?
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If you have a top secret clearance, you go on JWIX, you can pretty much go and see whatever is on there, except for special compartmentalized stuff.
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So who would be putting UFO type or UAP videos on there? How does that happen? How do they end up there?
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2017, these stories come out, New York Times and other media. The videos become known. That sparked your curiosity and you start looking around for that kind of stuff or it would just come across your desk in front of your eyes naturally. Yeah, so not looking for that stuff.
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I want to go back to this. You said these nuclear facilities, nuclear weapons, nuclear labs, nuclear power plants, that within a year or two, are you saying all of them get visited, or are there some strange phenomena?
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Yeah, and in this way, you're seeing images. Is there discussion? Is there text that comes along with this? Hey, we saw this thing. What the hell is it? It's not us.
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There's no leaflets left in the cafeteria. No memo put out that says, don't talk about this stuff, but you know.
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He's radioactive with different designation. Yeah. So you're seeing these videos and some limited discussion. You can't really openly talk about it, but you're curious. You're kind of hooked on the topic.
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Well, that's when the UAP task force was created. They didn't call it that, but it was up and running and they were trying to make entreaties out to the intelligence community and DOD. Hey, they wanted input from and partners.
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So because you're a workaholic and you're curious and you read a lot, you come across a file that really is what leads us to being here today. It's this, it's the Schreiber file.
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This is absolutely what I did not want to do. You've worked in secret programs. You've got clearances. You've made oaths that you would keep secrets. Let's talk about secrecy and the UAP topic. Shouldn't it be secret to some degree? I mean, we have there's a race for the technology to try to understand it. We have adversary nations who'd love to get it ahead of us. Why not keep this stuff secret?
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Interesting. So, all right. So Shriver War Games, you keep reading. There's a big slide with Lou Elizondo's face on it. What comes next? I mean, you get a sense that I shouldn't be able to read this here.
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I don't. This is a pretty interesting image here. It is.
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What do you take away from that? They didn't notice it or they're not upset about it or they don't know what to do with it or what?
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Any indication that it might be theirs, that they knew it's going to be there because they control it.
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I guess it could be that they've seen it before, that there's nothing they can do about it, so don't get excited about it.
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So immaculate constellation, you've never heard this term before, and it doesn't give you the full picture there. But what other additional information did it give about what this was and how it operates?
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So the next pages show orbs from different parts of the world. It looks like the pattern is that there's under this immaculate constellation, they're gathering UAP images from all over the planet. Absolutely.
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The Shriver War Games document with the images, 12 pages, 15 pages, somewhere in there? Yeah, I'd say, yeah, 12 to 15, but probably more like 12. And is that the only document you ever saw where the term immaculate constellation was used? Until I wrote one, yeah.
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Can you give us a general description of the size of the secrecy apparatus? You know, we're going to drill down to this, of course, about income, income and one particular facet of the secrecy that you came across and other parts of it. But how big of a secrecy apparatus is it? How many stovepipes are there?
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How many people are involved in different ways of keeping this secret, confusing the public, lying to Congress, lying to the world?
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And it's been used to intimidate, threaten, destroy the lives of people like yourselves who have been doing their job, keeping their oaths, trying to protect their country, being true to humanity, and have paid praises for it. Absolutely.
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You know there's no going back after you tell us this on camera. We had this conversation. This is it. This is the line in the sand. You're about to cross over here. Absolutely.
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Is it your belief, based on materials, things that you've been exposed to, that you've seen, people you've talked to and communicated with over a period of a couple of years, is it your belief that the technology, the race for the technology, the understanding of the big secret...
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is entirely in the hands of people outside the government and not for the benefit of the public or to protect American national security. It's in some other realm, in some other hands. I think it's a mix.
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Like a business cabal, international corporations that have no loyalty to any nation, let alone this one. That's a large part of it.
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Yeah, let's do a chronological. So you got a degree in what?
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So I said, no. You're in the Pentagon. Weapons of mass destruction is a general umbrella under which you're working. You got a security clearance at that point?
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You get to see, I guess, firsthand all this different information that comes in from all over these places, different platforms, right? You're exposed to that. And you get an idea of just how big that apparatus is. Yes.
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I still do. And risks. I imagine there's all kinds of information that comes across your desk and that desk of other people you're working with at that point about weapons of mass destruction, the movement of nuclear weapons or suddenly material that disappears. And where did he go? Black market, biological weapons research.
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things that are going on around the world that we need to keep an eye on, right? And things that never make the news.
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Does that stuff come across your desk? Human intelligence, signals intelligence, regarding weapons of mass destruction?
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And the kinds of things that you see that come across your desk, does it give you pause? How am I going to sleep tonight knowing that this XYZ is going on somewhere? Yeah. At times when I think, oh, crap, how did this happen?
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This is Weaponize. My name is George Knapp. I'm here in Las Vegas. Jeremy Corbell, my friend and colleague. How are you doing?
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A lot of traveling. We got to Austin, where we have a lot of friends. It was a gathering of UFO poobahs for the premiere at South by Southwest of this film produced by Dan Farah. What did you think of it?
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Well, we've offered to help with that kind of stuff to provide access to them and other media outlets to get to the bottom of what happened in that 2019 series of events. And and they don't want they don't really seem to want it. I'll tell you what really bugged me is they had a one-sentence piece in the 60 Minutes story about this unnamed Chinese freighter ship that was out there.
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For years, I think they said, the Navy has suspected that that ship, that Chinese ship, was launching drones. Well, we know for a fact. That is not true. I mean, yeah, maybe somebody suspected at some point. The ship, by the way, is called the Bass Strait. There was a ship out there. It's registered in Hong Kong. And it's interesting.
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I think old UFO people like me have heard the term Bass Strait before because it's a water, it's a strait between Tasmania and mainland Australia. And back in, I think, 1978 or There was a famous UFO incident. A 20-year-old pilot named Frederick Valentich was flying. He calls into the Melbourne Air Traffic Control Tower and said, hey, there's something really weird flying above me.
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It's like a thousand feet above me. I think it's a plane. And he says, oh, my engine is starting to go bad. And then he says, his last transmission says, it's not a plane. And then poof. He's gone. He disappeared. It's a mystery that's never been solved, but it happened over the Bass Strait.
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So for a ship named Bass Strait to become the focal point of another, a new UFO mystery is really kind of ironic, I think. But we know for a fact that ship did not launch those drones, or any drones, because when it got into port... Our friend Jay Stratton, who told us in one of our very first weaponized episodes, told us about this. He had the UAP task force.
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He had contacts with the Department of Justice. He sent agents there. They were waiting for it when it got into Long Beach, I think. And they got on board that ship, looked around. There's no drone mechanisms. There's no drone launching capabilities. And I think, as you told me, while the ship is there...
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landlocked, the drone activity, the mystery UAS, whatever you want to call them, continued for the U.S. Navy. Is that correct? That is correct.
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Pacific Basin is the owner and operator of Bass Strait, a cargo ship that launched a series of drones that surveilled and harassed U.S. Navy ships, including the USS Paul Hamilton and the Waters of Southern California in 2019. No equivocation, it is the ship that launched these drones.
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Yeah, the film makes it pretty clear from pretty high-level people that this topic has been confused on purpose, ignored, discredited, and that it's time for the secrecy to end. These are some pretty high-up intelligence people, defense intelligence people. We got to see Jay Stratton. We heard from Lou Elizondo. We saw our friend Ernie Klein.
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Yeah, I agree. And, you know, a friend of ours, Merrick, who we've interviewed a couple of times and talked to a lot, made the point on X. He had posted something to the effect of, yeah, great job, 60 Minutes. Glad you covered this. But why did you leave out maybe the best drone video, drone using it in a generic term of all time, which is the USS Omaha. Now, just to review, this is July 2019.
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These 10 Navy ships are being buzzed by more than a hundred of these objects over a three-day period. There were a lot of videos were recorded, logs, a lot of information, a lot of witnesses saw these things, different sized objects who were bedeviling these Navy warships. And we released quite a bit of evidence of that. Images taken from a thermal camera in the command center in the USS Omaha.
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This thing followed that ship for more than an hour, I think. It's a gigantic sphere. There's no wings, tail, rotor, no emissions that indicate it's like a regular engine. It just follows along in the dead of night, and then it goes into the water. And All right. You want to say that's a drone. Well, how the hell does it fly? You know, it's 14 feet across. Something like that is huge.
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And you don't see it coming in. You don't see it leave. It follows along with the ship at night. You got the images. They said there was I think you had the video that showed the radar returns that there were 12 to 14 of them at times buzzing in and out around that ship. Correct.
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There was a gathering of UFO luminaries like I have never seen before. Gary Nolan was there. It was a pretty cool time. Our friend Chris Ramsey was floating around as well. I think the film is going to move the needle a bit. How much, I don't know, because we don't know how it's going to be distributed yet. But it was great to go to Austin. It was great to see it.
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USS Russell. So we saw some seemingly familiar imagery in the 60 Minutes story that looked like triangles. That's not the footage that we made public. The USS Russell, we have communicated with those crew members. These what looked like pyramids floating over it. They're now pretty famous, these green, greenish looking pyramids.
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And I think a lot of people have tried to explain that away as bouquet or something like that. We've seen the records. We know the information that was made available to the UAP task force from the U.S. Navy. We know that these objects, whatever they were, were detected 700 feet above the deck of that ship. It's not a star that's millions of miles away. It was there. It wasn't a mistake.
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And I can't wait for the public to see it.
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I'm just done with that bullshit. I think maybe the most positive thing to come out of the 60-minute story is the acknowledgement that we are in a world of hurt with this. Our systems can't seem to detect them. We can't see them coming in. We can't see them leaving. At Langley Air Force Base, 17 nights in a row, these things popped up.
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And as we heard from witnesses, sometimes 30 or 40 of them coming over that base were The Langley folks had to move the F-22s out of there. We can speculate about what else might be at Langley. And maybe in the future, we're going to talk about what it might have drawn column unidentifieds to that particular base.
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But, you know, so in this 60 Minutes piece for these high ups in the military admit we don't know who's flying them, what their job is, where they're from, who's responsible because they are unidentified. But I recall Jay Stratton, when he was in charge of the UAP task force, getting slammed by police. media pundits who said, you know, it's really your fault that we can't detect these things.
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The UAP Task Force is so interested in trying to track UFOs that NORAD is completely unprepared for things like the Chinese balloons that were such a big story, the Dronapalooza for a couple of weeks a few years ago. You know, that's your fault, UAP Task Force, because you want us to look for UFOs, which is the complete opposite of what is the case.
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They've been making the case that we need to look for unconventional objects in our space, including drones, including balloons. And NORAD, which is, you know, kind of programmed, their sensors are programmed to look for bombers and missiles, which we perceive as a threat, but they don't look for these kinds of things.
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And as we heard in that 60 Minutes story, we don't even have the capability to detect low-flying small objects that invade restricted airspace.
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Yeah. I mean, we talked about this last year in one or two of our episodes that what we called, you know, drones as the new swamp gas. And I know that that phrase has caught on and a lot of people use it, but that's what the case is. Oh, yeah. Drones. Well, yeah, we don't know where they came from or why they're here or who's flying them. But, you know, they're just drones.
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So don't worry about it. Well, Drones is not really an accurate description for the kinds of cases and incidents that you and I are talking about because they are genuine unknowns. They are unidentified. They fit into the category of UFOs.
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And the suggestion in that story that the Pentagon does not try to brush that away, you know, it's happy to let that stick out there, is completely in opposite of facts and history.
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And maybe there's additional footage that might pop up. You know, who knows? Military, who knows? Yeah, you know, keep in mind that there are attempts to muddy the waters. It's been that way for a long, long time. It is ongoing. There will be dismissals and waves of your hand to ignore certain cases and data and the evidence in front of your own eyes. Keep your eyes on the ball.
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We're going to try to do that for sure.
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As we have learned over the years, there's always someone out there who will claim that this video, that photo, this case has been debunked. And all you have to do to debunk it is say it's debunked. I don't think there's any video or image in the history of ufology that someone hasn't said is debunked.
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It's going to be hard to debunk the testimony of these folks, given their credibility and the positions they had over the years. I saw a Wall Street Journal article, you and I have talked about it before, that came out in the last couple of days, which is pretty typical of what mainstream media has done with the UFO topic over the decades.
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That is, is to take a dump on it and to discredit it and to muddy the waters. And wow, this was a pretty nasty piece of journalism. Don't you agree? Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, that was really a low blow. And even for UFO debunkers, that really stands out as a pretty nasty attack because it really doesn't fit. Dave Grush was just announced a couple of days ago. He's going to be working with the congressional committee, looking into UAP issues, advising them on where they can look.
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I think there are still limits on what he can say about things he knew from being on the inside. But he's a solid guy. He had great courage in coming forward and testifying before Congress. He's taken nothing but grief for it. And apparently, based on what we just read in The Wall Street Journal, he's going to be taking some more. I don't think the main target of that was Dave Grush.
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It was probably meant to discourage other whistleblowers to come forward, but also it was to discourage 60 Minutes from continuing their reporting. 60 Minutes did this piece about drones, the mystery drone story that's been percolating for a couple of years. And that was their real target is to embarrass them. So maybe they don't do additional reporting. Do you agree?
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Because I'm glad they covered it. I'm glad to see 60 Minutes still interested. They did a huge piece a couple of years ago. It got a gigantic reaction from the public. The producer, we know, Graham Messick, he is interested in the subject. He's looking for ways to keep it in the public eye.
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Bill Whitaker, the correspondent for this piece, was also the correspondent in the previous report they did. I know that going in, he was nervous about what this might do to his career, but he stuck with it. He got a great response.
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Obviously, they're not calling drones UFOs, and they're avoiding any implication that the things that were seen over New Jersey, over Langley Air Force Base, over Plant 42 in the Mojave Desert, over the bases in the U.K.,
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that there's anything from outer space that they're, you know, kind of dismissing the idea that these are aliens or UFOs, but just covering the fact that these drones are mysterious, that they are coming from places we can't track. We can't track them when they leave. We're not able to bring them down. We, We can get into some details about that. And it's been going on a long time.
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You know, I'm glad they covered it. And we were going to take issue with some of the things that they said in this report. But overall, I was I was happy with it. And we have no idea what challenges Graham Messick and Bill Whitaker have in trying to cover topics that a lot of people in mainstream media think are nonsense.
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So, I mean, as with Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kane, New York Times, it is a heavy lift. And I'm sure they got to have editors who are very strict to get this on and to address the drone mystery without necessarily going as far as it could go is, I think, a positive thing. I see your point of view.
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Yeah, I've done a couple of drone stories for KLAS this year. The most recent one was about a place called Plant 42 out near Palmdale. It is where Lockheed Martin and Boeing and a lot of the big aerospace contractors live and work and develop advanced platforms. In fact, this plant is where they are developing our next most advanced drone type platforms. advanced drone technology.
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And for a period, a year or so ago, these drones, mystery drones, are flying over Plant 42. Two years prior, Plant 42 had basically boasted, hey, we've got an electronic fence. We've got anti-drone technology. We're not worried about drones. Well, whatever they have, it didn't work because these things came in night after night, multiple different drones, different sizes.
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Our systems can't seem to detect them. We can't see them coming in. We can't see them leaving.
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They came from areas that were not trackable. They loitered over these very sensitive areas where very advanced platforms for our national security are being built and developed. And there was nothing that anyone could do. I know that security forces tried to follow them when they left after they... recorded whatever surveillance needs they had. They couldn't catch up to them.
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They have no idea where they were launched. The proposal that maybe it's Chinese agents that, you know, are launching drones from some garage down there in these little towns, these little desert towns is preposterous. And it's an... indication that we have a real security problem with these drones, not only there, but in other examples that we're going to talk about.
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You know, they gave lip service to this incident in the 60 Minutes story. I thought they could have done a lot better job because It was a serious matter, and we still don't know where those things came from, what their objective was. It was suggested to me, maybe it's a security test, that it is us flying things over sensitive places to see how personnel and systems will react.
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That might explain some of them, but it doesn't explain all of them. And we saw that in the 60 Minutes report. They're talking to these high-level military guys. If anyone would know if this is a security test, it's them, and clearly it is not.
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Yeah. I mean, in this piece, they reference stories that we helped break. Yeah. videos that we released to the public. The reason they have them is because we found them and put them out. But they referenced the 2019 drone swarms that were reported by these 10 U.S. Navy warships 100 miles out to sea off the Southern California coast. And it happened for several days in July of 2019.
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There were videos that were recorded. We got some amazing footage and testimony from the people who were there. And they just sort of wiped this away as if it oh yeah, these are drones, no big deal. And it says it in the logs. You know about those logs, right?
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warship, the USS Jackson, and a lot of discussion since the video came out, people trying to poke holes in it. We fortunately had some conversations and audio clips from one of the witnesses, one of the key witnesses on board the ship, But people are trying to wonder who was this guy who shared his thoughts with us, and maybe we need to tell them.
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So higher ups knew on the ship, knew this was going on. It's not like you would be expected to file some sort of report or something. They knew it and they said, no, no, it's explainable.
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Can you tell us about the, the Sapphire system, what we are seeing on that video that was released? Uh, you know, people complain, oh gosh, it's grainy, but I mean, it's not a movie, a Panasonic movie camera. It's a thermal sensor, correct?
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So depending on what the propulsion system is, you should be able to see something on that thermal screen that indicates how it works. Is it leaving exhaust, for example? But you didn't see it. It's not like a jet, for example, right?
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Well, you've been working this for a while. I mean, you know, I should give you credit because, you know, it's scary for somebody to come forward, to agree to have their name and face out there, to suffer the slings and arrows that inevitably come from going public on this. But I think you've done a really good job of assuring this witness that he'd be okay if he came forward.
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Maybe one last thing, Jeremy, you can ask from me anyway. The four points that fly away, that's a pretty key moment, I would think. That's a pretty cool moment, right?
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And these four points leave as if they're one object. Is that right?
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We are careful about that. I mean, actually, we should tell our audience that. We tried to stop him from using his voice, right? We thought maybe that wasn't a good idea.
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Where does it go from here for you? I mean, are you willing to testify if you were called or fill out a form to arrow or take it further if you're asked?
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Alex, thanks so much. I hope that you come back to Las Vegas. We had a chance to get together.
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So, Jeremy, as we were analyzing this video and the implications of the case, we made the collective wise decision to reach out to our friend Merrick. to help us understand that technology involved what we were seeing and to, in essence, pre-bunk the debunk. Is that right?
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We put the brakes on after Merrick had his first look at it. We put the brakes on. Well, wait a second. Maybe this can be explained prosaically. And then the more we learned about it, the stronger the case got. Merrick, can't thank you enough for, as always, pitching in with your expertise on this stuff.
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And I'm really grateful. And of course, the context, Admiral Tim Galladet appeared at that last congressional hearing, made statements, shared about his own experiences in the U.S. Navy. The Navy has pushed the ball down the court, down the field, saying we want transparency, we want reporting, we want less stigma. Well, here we go. We've got an active duty U.S.
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So you rule out regular airplanes, but we have seen already some people try to make it like they were planes, that what we're seeing is exhaust. It's not exhaust, is it?
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Navy guy who is here to tell us what happened on the USS Jackson. You should introduce him. All right. So I'll let him introduce himself even. This is Alex. Alex, great to talk to you. Can we just start with what was in your decision making to come forward with this, both today showing your face and your name?
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Mayor, can you help us understand what we were seeing on that screen from the film? I mean, it bounces around, and then it seems to zoom in at one point. That thing is moving. I can't tell if that's the camera or the sensor moving, the ship moving, or the object moving. Can you help us?
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And the white things that appear on that screen, is that the targeting mechanism trying to...
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I am a traditionalist. I feel almost a romantic connection to the Tic Tac design. It's like Ray-Ban Wayfarers. Some things you don't need to improve on them. The SR-71, the Corvette. And I'm glad to see Tic Tacs stick around, that they're still flying the same thing. Didn't add tail fins or anything like that. Tic Tacs were around in 2004. We saw some big spheres and pyramids in 2019.
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And now we're back to Tic Tacs. I'm glad that whoever's flying them has stuck with the original.
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But as an analyst, Merrick, what do you make of the fact that they were around in 2004, probably a lot sooner than that? I mean, there's been UFO activity and USO activity there for a long time. 2019, this gigantic outpouring of it, and now 2023, they're making it pretty clear they're still around. What's the big picture for you?
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Thanks, Merrick. Appreciate your expertise and your efforts on our behalf and the behalf of the public.
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So, you know, the Navy has sort of led the charge in trying to reduce the stigma about reporting UFOs, USOs. The whole government has said, yeah, we're interested in transparency. We want people to come forward. We want witnesses, pilots, aviators, whatever, to come forward. You're one of those guys.
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You're taking them at their word that you're not going to get in trouble for reporting to the world what you saw.
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You grew up in Las Vegas. You've had a chance to see 20 plus years of my UFO stories. I hope I did not twist your mind too much over those years.
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You had shared with Jeremy the fact that sailors in that area see these things all the time. Tell us a little bit more about that. When you may have seen your first one, I suspect it's something that we know about, and how often it's seen and how the Navy handles it.
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And when you say you're not able to identify these things, meaning they're in the air, in the water, both?
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So take us back to this night in February of 2023. What's going on? Where are you? How does this first come to your attention?
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So the, the sensor is pointed toward land, uh, sort of a North Eastern direction. Is that what you're, what you're pointing at? You're looking at?
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This is Weaponized. I'm George Knapp coming to you from Las Vegas, joined by my friend and colleague, Jeremy Korbel, who is hiding out somewhere. How are you doing, Jeremy? I'm good, George. It's been a good day. How are you? It's been a good week. I mean, we were able to share with the world this video of an incident from February 2023 involving a U.S.
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As this news travels, is there a blowback? Do you suddenly realize, hey, something might happen to me as a result of this getting out there? You're happy that it's finally there on the record, but then does that change over the days or weeks afterward?
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Is there blowback for you personally? Does anybody call you and say you shouldn't have done that? Or does somebody figure out who you are? Is there an attempt to identify who you are?
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You ever see any videos where we're engaging with them? Either we're chasing them, our warplanes or something, or going after a disc, a saucer, an orb, or something like that?
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Who are they? Why are they here? Why don't they show us what's going on?
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So we're sending a plane up to take a look. Yeah. Maybe get a better look or even some imagery, but not to engage, meaning shoot it down, shoot a sidewinder at it or something. Right.
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So the Russian military, from 78 to 88, they had a standing order for every unit in this vast Soviet military empire, any UFO or ball of light, flying saucer, anything weird in the sky.
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It had to all be investigated, and the guy who was in charge of that program at the Ministry of Defense said that there had been several dozen instances where they sent planes, warplanes, to intercept these UFOs, and mostly they couldn't keep up with them. They just poof, they're gone. But in three cases, they tried to engage and shoot them down.
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Three cases where those planes, the Russian warplanes, crashed. Two of the pilots died, and after the second pilot died, they issued an order, leave them alone. Because in the words of the commander of the Russian Air Force, they said they have incredible capacities for retaliation.
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Star Wars, they have giant cruisers, and they have the X fighters, you know, for different jobs. Yeah. Would you be surprised to hear about cases where these things, large objects, come out of the ocean or go back into the ocean? Does that sound familiar?
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The things you're describing that you'd seen that are in this report are mostly things that are in the Pacific and the Atlantic. There's over Africa. They're foreign things, something coming over the border from Mexico. What about cases in the U.S.? Is NORAD, is that just a black hole for these kind of images? So something that happens over our country, you don't even get to see it.
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This doesn't stop. Right. You get to know some of these other whistleblowers who are still not public yet. Correct. But who are at least close to coming forward. Yes. Is there strength in numbers in that regard?
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The complaint we hear from UFO world is, I don't care about these blurry images. These things are blurry. The tic-tac, to me, that was a fantastic image. You know, you're not sending Dave Fravor up with an IMAX camera to make a movie. These are captured on sensor systems, the same as like 2019, the USS Omaha, pitch black, 100 miles off the coast of Southern California.
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They're picking up an image that they follow for an hour on a thermal camera. They're blurry, but they're amazing images. I mean, is there a reason that the public doesn't see crystal clear movie quality images of UFOs?
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Well, I mean, getting an image on a thermal camera 100 miles out to sea in total blackness sounds pretty cool to me. That sounds like an amazing accomplishment. But are there additional reasons that have been maybe discussed behind closed doors that force fields of some sort around these craft that make things blurry, even from a mid-camera image, do you know?
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We had this Chinese balloon thing that happened, three different objects, UFOs, three UFOs shot down in a couple of week period. And then we saw people use that, the usual people in the media world who bash this stuff, who tried to blame it on the UAP Task Force. The reason we're not, NORAD is not looking for something like this because the UAP Task Force confused the whole situation.
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It's as if NORAD would only look for things that look like planes, bombers or missiles. So we didn't look for UFOs. Is it possible that we didn't look for UFOs because it didn't really want to find them? Or is it we were looking for UFOs and just the public... And most of the government never saw.
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Right. You know, like Tic Tac. So that happened for two or three weeks. They could get a little glimpse of it on these systems, really sensitive, advanced Navy systems at the time. And then poof, it fell off. At the USS Omaha, they had 12 or 14 of these things zipping in. You'd see them on the radar screen and then poof. If they didn't want to be seen, we weren't seeing them.
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I guess it could be that as part of an explanation. If they don't want to be detected on radar, they have ways to avoid radar, whoever they are.
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I have one more. Drones. So 60 Minutes just did a big piece on drones. Langley Air Force Base had these things flying over it for 17 nights in a row. Stayed in New Jersey for weeks at a time. Sensitive bases, restricted airspace at US, UK bases in Britain for days and days. We can't track these things coming in. We can't track them when they leave. We can't shoot them down.
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We don't know where they're from. But don't worry, they're just drones. They're foreign surveillance drones. Give me your take on that whole situation.
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It just seems to me that it is a worse thing to say, these might be foreign surveillance drones, and there's not a damn thing we can do about it. We can't track them, we can't see them, we can't shoot them down, than it is to say, these are genuine unknowns. It seems like they're unknowns, not just some drone that the Chinese are floating off of New Jersey.
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And I was raised right. You think that by talking to us, it's possible that you might have some protection in that if somebody cuts your brake lines and you go off a cliff, at least there's going to be somebody looking into it and, and raise some hell about it.
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Um, any regrets now?
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Describe for us the personal costs, the reality for you going forward, your outlook for ever working for the government again, for example, or with any kind of a job that requires a security clearance, personal costs to your marriage, your personal life.
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This doesn't stop. Right. You get to know some of these other whistleblowers who are still not public yet. Correct. But who are at least close to coming forward. Yes. Is there a strength in numbers in that regard?
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More will come. Well, those seeds have been planted about deaths in the whistleblower community. Those stories circulate, I would imagine, pretty quickly among you and people you know. Yeah, but I'm still here. You think anybody has been killed because they knew too much on this topic?
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They don't have to kill you. They could just ready you some way. Oh, yeah. Manufacture something.
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Have you gamed it out in your head what happens next? What will likely be, assuming we go forward with this interview and make it public, and that right now we don't know that that's the case, but when it comes out, if it comes out, what happens to you then? What are the risks?
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So there are other bullets left to fire if you needed to. Yeah.
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But if we're talking just about our ideas now, you have thoughts about big picture stuff, who they are. Is it more than one day? Is it us from the future? E.T. 's interdimensionals. Do you think there's anybody in government who knows? And if you if they do know, is there any reason why this should say stay secret? At least some of it should stay secret that the public cannot handle. No.
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It's about getting rid of what's evil. Power and control meaning controlling the technology and what it would mean. Those are just means. Controlling humanity. Everything. Do you suspect that there are reverse engineering programs, that there have been crashes, that there are attempts to replicate that technology?
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You got hints of it in the ARV, our RV, that we're trying to build what these things can do. Do you think we've done it, that we've accomplished it? Somebody?
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We've seen people say they think that the Tic Tac is something we had 21 years ago. And I'm wondering, well, where the hell is it? I mean, if we have this technology, we've done some of it to get even inferior versions of it. Is that something that's going to be incorporated into the U.S.
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military arsenal, or is it something that's outside of it, that's controlled by somebody who's not using it for national defense?
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Somebody was flying these things that crashed. Somebody built these things that are being reverse engineered. Who's that somebody? And why don't they come forward? I mean, you know, you may not have seen that in a document or a file or something somewhere, but you've thought about it. You're a smart guy. What are your thoughts on the big picture questions? Who are they? Why are they here?
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Why don't they show us what's going on?
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You think we would see them if they didn't let us see them? Even with our more advanced sensors that they pop up, but they can also disappear. And do they allow us to get these limpses? Is that a game of some sort, I wonder? Or an education process.
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It's just much more boring than the movie. I think about whistleblowers like yourself. You're about to find out, assuming we release this, you're about to find out what the price is for coming forward. And there are other people in the same kind of position who are wondering what they should do, who are basically being held in limbo. They've worked in classified programs their whole life.
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That's what they do. That's what pays their bills. And they're held in limbo and that's held over their head so they don't come forward. And they're debating taking the same steps as you. There is no hope. or help for anything like folks like that, is there?
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I mean, we've heard promises, we'll help whistleblowers come forward, we'll give them support, there are private equity funds and organizations that say they're going to help, but we haven't seen shit so far, have we? And have you?
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or by the existing powers that be, intelligence agencies who have infiltrated or created these things. Correct.
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It worked well. It did. So you come out of that thinking, okay, all right, this is good. I made contact. We'll see where it goes. Mold? Yeah, pretty strong.
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Probably CIA?
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Yeah. When you hear about the lineup for the hearing that was held, you've got to be feeling pretty good about it. Oh, yeah. There's going to be a witness.
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They're thinking, all right, good, all right. It's going to come out. And we're all punked. Did you know exactly what was going to be discussed by the Schellenberger at that point?
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Personally, there are a lot of phone conversations that we sat in on with House staff and And it got curiouser and curiouser as the people who were in on these conversations with us on the other end.
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Yeah, I remember when I first started looking into the UFO subject, it really dawned on me. There was this guy named Dr. John Mack, who's head of Harvard Psychiatrics or whatever it was. And, you know, it's a guy that you could you could see was very serious and he was believable and you could trust him. And man, he looked at the aerial school encounters with the aliens.
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I mean, with the craft that landed or there's like 60 kids. You and I got to know a couple of the children who are now adults who are closest to what they say were the aliens, right? So that's Liesel and Salma. So shout out to Liesel and Salma. I hope to have you on Weaponize at some point. But Dr. John Mack went down there. BBC covered it.
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And that's when I first heard about his work coming into it. I was like, wow, let me look into this guy. And you told me. that a great book was written about his life by Ralph Blumenthal. And I thought that was so cool that he did a deep dive into this guy's history. And I really like Ralph over the years. Yes, he broke the 2017 New York Times story, and that was a huge push.
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I think you, George, and I look into this from a hardware standpoint to a degree because that feels very tangible. We are convinced, it sounds like all three of us are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that our government has certain NHI or non-human intelligence made craft. That there's a physical, tangible component and our government's been trying to reverse engineer this.
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But just as a human being, as a reporter, as a journalist, just talking with him, he's the real deal, isn't he?
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And I assume we're all on that same page from what you said earlier. I think where it becomes difficult for people is well, if that's true, then are these abductions real? Are we being operated on by some non-human intelligence? You probably know John Mack better than he knew himself from everything that you've been able to access.
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So I hear what you're saying, but I got a question for you, which is that this technology that we are convinced exists and that we've seen people try to do material transfers. We know a lot of the people, all three of us that have worked in those programs. What happens when we talk about abductions?
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What happens when we talk about this phenomena where people feel they are being taken, they are being operated on? Where do you put that as a journalist? What is your opinion on that bottom line after doing all this work? Okay.
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Zimbabwe, what that was about to me was a big deal that this Harvard psychiatrist comes and actually investigates this with the BBC. Can you tell me a little bit about that?
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You started to answer it, but I'd love to hear more. What did you leave out that you knew back in 2017 that you didn't have space to write about?
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Yeah. Go ahead, Jerry. Oh, no, I just, you know, Ralph. So one of the journalists tackling this or that's willing to tackle this, I mean, 45 years, I believe more than that at the New York Times. And you get to write about this and you had an interest in it. But here you go. I mean, you get to write a big article.
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Can you just I think for our audience, it'd be interesting to know what is the process a little bit of vetting people? Like, how do you do that when you're when you're hearing these stories? And then you started to answer it. But I'd love to hear more. What did you leave out that you knew back in 2017 that you didn't have space to write about?
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I'm good. How you doing, man?
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Jeremy? Yeah, I'm just curious personally. I mean, you're a veteran journalist. You like George. You've broken stories across the board. You get into the UFO thing. What I'm curious about right now is what is the responsibility of a journalist when you obtain information like George and I have, like visual information? I struggle sometimes with knowing what the boundaries are to allow stuff out.
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And you and I have had private conversations, Ralph, about this, struggling with how to report to the American people on something that is of value to the American people, but also staying within the confines of national security. Did you have to deal with any of that when it came to your 2017 article?
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What do you make of the whole psionics thing? Everybody talking about crash retrievals related to consciousness. Did that cross your barrier back then? What do you make of everything that everybody's saying now, which is that Crash Retrievers is connected to some sort of specialized groups that go in with their minds and control craft? It's pretty wild assertions. What do you make of all of that?
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There is no shot recorded by these guys for what we've seen so far of all four of them on the screen at the same time though, is there?
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What can we say about people who were there at the time without getting anyone into trouble?
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Again, thanks to U.S. Navy personnel who are head and shoulders above the other service members in terms of trying to be transparent on this, because they've been told that that's what they're supposed to do, that it's okay, you can come forward. I think even though this footage has now surfaced,
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They're still really concerned about what could happen if they speak publicly about it, if they follow the instructions they've been given by their higher-ups. They're concerned about possible repercussions, correct?
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You know, there was an article, I'm not sure if you've seen it yet, that was just out at the time we're recording this, in Scientific American, written by Leonard David. He most often writes for space.com. He's a good guy, covers the UAP topic. And although this piece in Scientific American starts out a little bit snarky,
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He interviews the new head of Arrow, the current head, Kozlowski, who admits that he is open to the possibility that his life from somewhere else is represented in various UFO, UAP videos and cases. But we've heard from him before, and he's been very candid in the fact that he is handcuffed to some degree. He wants to inquire.
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He wants to do a legit investigation, but he's handcuffed by higher-ups. The reality is... There are limits on what he can say, how far he can go. And I wonder how this video will be treated by the IRO office now that we're making it public.
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We should also say we have shared this imagery with a couple of people, a very close group of people that we know who do know their stuff. Give me a general sense of what they've told us, how they react.
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This is Weaponized. My name is George Knapp, joined by my colleague, Jeremy Corbell. Jeremy, how you doing?
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And there were four of them, not just one Tic Tac, four at the same time. I mean, the Tic Tac shape is still going strong. Maybe that has low mileage on these vehicles, but that shape, they haven't changed it for a new model, a new fancier thing with tail fins or anything like that. They're still flying the Tic Tacs. Maybe it's ours, Jeremy.
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That's a secret program that we've been flying around out there, transmedium stuff, since 2004 and maybe longer. What do you think?
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Well, it's obviously springtime, you know, when hope springs eternal, when love is in the air, birds and bees are coming out, and when UFO videos filmed by the military suddenly blossom, right?
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Okay, world. Here's a new video to analyze recorded by the U.S. military. Do your thing.
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Yeah, I mean, as we've said before on this program, a lot of people send us videos, you know, and it's a ball of light, sea of inky darkness, things moving around, drones, whatever it is. And it's always interesting to receive those. We like them.
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But the military video, things filmed by our military and analyzed by our military kind of carries a special weight because you know where it comes from. You know the kinds of platforms it's recorded on or from. You know when they say it really is unidentified, it's doing things that we haven't seen before. That packs a little more credibility, correct?
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Well, let's take an example, Tic Tac. The Tic Tac incident off the Southern California coast, recorded in 2004, U.S. Navy, aviators, Dave Fravor, they encounter this thing. You and I had reported on it for a while. Then it becomes part of the New York Times story in December 2017, and kaboom, it's explosive.
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The power of that video and Dave Fravor's testimony made that, I think, the most consequential UFO of all time, in a sense, because there was something to see, and you had testimony to back it up. And I know that people have analyzed that video over and over again, but really it remains unidentified to this day. And later on in this conversation today, we're going to see more Tic Tacs.
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But that's just one of the examples that's been released that really changed the narrative on the UFO topic. Gimbal, Go Fast. We also released some photos way back. You'll recall you and I were traveling around in 2018. going to these UFO conferences and had reported to people, U S Navy pilots, Oceana on the East coast are seeing unknown objects every single day, every single day.
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And I think people thought we were making it up. And, and then, you know, then we were able to release some of the photos, the acorn, the sphere, the, the metallic blimp with payload, here they are. And, you know, that had been sitting in our archives for a while, didn't really know what to make of it.
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But as we learned, those Navy pilots flying out into their training area were seeing these objects every day, every single day, different sizes, different shapes, and they'd just sit there for days, not acting like drones, not acting like blimps. They were sitting there against really high winds, way up, And they photographed him.
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And, you know, and later we see Ryan Graves came forward and testified to the fact that Navy pilots were, in fact, seeing those things every day, including the spheres inside a box.
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as a warning to the interpretation of this video, shot off a thermal screen at night, way out to sea, complete darkness. People are going to gripe, oh, well, it's grainy footage. Yeah, it's nighttime. It's not an IMAX camera. It's like the USS Omaha, which, you know, even as recently as a week ago, 60 Minutes is trying to dismiss that, as so many have done. Oh, it's We don't know what that is.
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It's got to be a drone. A 14 foot long, foot wide circle that follows a ship at night for more than an hour. And there are 13 or 14 of them picked up on radar, appearing and disappearing. What the hell was that? It did go into the water. We know it did. Attempts to dismiss that. I'm sure we're going to see some of the same kinds of things with the video we're about to see.
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But look, it hasn't been explained. They don't know what that is. We don't have something like that that can do what that object did. It did disappear in the water. It was a transmedium. We don't know where it came from. We couldn't track it. We haven't been able to shoot those things down. So it's significant when our military guys see something that they know is not ours.
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Navy Warship Encounters Multiple “TIC TAC” Craft
They don't know whose it is, but they know it is something very unusual.
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Navy Warship Encounters Multiple “TIC TAC” Craft
These guys in the U.S. Navy who are out there off the coast of Southern California are seeing these things all the time. I mean, it's not just here and there. They don't always get to record images of these things, but it is not uncommon for them to see these unknowns popping in and out of the water or zipping around or doing things that... they shouldn't be able to do, correct?
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Well, we know it's been happening since 2004, at least. We know it was happening in 2019. And we know that as recently as 2023, it was going on as well, because that's what we're about to get into, correct?
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Navy Warship Encounters Multiple “TIC TAC” Craft
Well, obviously it's springtime, you know, when hope springs eternal, when love is in the air, birds and bees are coming out, and when UFO videos filmed by the military suddenly blossom. These guys in the US Navy who are out there off the coast of Southern California are seeing these things all the time.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
So it turns out the gigantic red square is not the only gigantic square. There was another one.
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What is the time frame compared to the red square to the dark square? I mean, could it be the same object that had its lights off or something?
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But I mean, the Red Square happened when compared to the Dark Square?
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
This is Weaponized. I'm George Knapp, coming to you from Las Vegas, joined by my friend and colleague, Jeremy Korbel. How's it going, Jeremy? Really good, man. We've got good stuff today. You know, a couple of weeks ago, we mentioned to our audience that we had been in Austin, Texas. We got to see this premiere at South by Southwest of a new UFO documentary called The Age of Disclosure.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
So it's one thing to, as a military police officer, to be responding to reports from other people. You see this yourself. You and your friends see this thing. Does it change how you view the topic in general?
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
So you're a third generation UFO witness.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
This thing by Dan Farah directed it. not yet released to the general public, but it's coming soon. And it is jam-packed with so many statements from government people, former and current government officials, intelligence officials, former military scientists who've all done deep dives of their own into the UFO topic. And included in that film
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Of course, you've worked at sensitive places. You've been around sensitive projects. Is there any chance that our military has gigantic red glowing spheres stashed in a hundred yard hangar somewhere or any of the The drone technology that people have been reporting, not only in New Jersey, but over Langley, over Plant 42 in the Mojave Desert, over UK bases. Is that stuff ours, as far as you know?
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is a very brief discussion of an absolutely fantastic UFO incident that occurred at Vandenberg Air Force Base, which has been the scene of a lot of activity over the years. And I wanted to know more about that. It was incredible. I had heard little bits and pieces before, but I thought that thing is definitely worth exploring in greater detail, and you're making it happen here today.
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Any of that?
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One of the theories that was shared with me by some people who work for intelligence agencies. Oh, yeah. These are security tests like plant 42 in the Mojave Desert near Palmdale. Very sensitive technology being developed there, including our advanced drone technology, B-21. They had these incursions last year.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
over and over again by these unknown drones i'm using air quotes around it and what was explained to me is oh yeah that's probably a security test they'll never admit it was a security test but they want to see how personnel and systems react um you know we've heard the same kind of explanation at icbm bases and missile silos things of that sort what do you make of that it's nonsense
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
Yeah, the red cube.
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You know, I was born in New Jersey and there are some similarities from Jersey, parts of Jersey to Nevada, where I live now. I'm amazed that somebody in New Jersey didn't get out a gun and shoot at these things, at these drones. I mean, maybe they did and they just didn't have any effect.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
By the way, Jeff, I know what our viewers are going to say. Where's the photos? Do you think there's any video of what you saw over Vandenberg or what was seen over Vandenberg? And if so, where would it be?
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
I have one other question, then maybe Jeremy wants to wrap. But I'm wondering your experience in Congress. So you, you know, you did what you're supposed to do and talk to folks. Are you confident that Congress is going to be able to get to the bottom of this? I mean, we know some of those people. They're very committed to it.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
But it seems like they're hamstrung in some ways that that people more powerful than Congress don't want this coming out.
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Here's what I like is that the email I got from him yesterday, our group email, he ends it with go, go UFO. So I suspect this guy has seen weaponized before.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
Hey, good to talk to you. Can you give us a little of your bio, a thumbnail sketch of your bio? How long were you in the Air Force?
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So you're in 16 years, you're at Vandenberg for how long? And while you're there as a military police officer, you're not investigating UFOs, you're doing your job, right?
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How long were you there at Vandenberg?
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As we're going to hear today, there were multiple incidents that you're aware of.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
You testified to Congress or you briefed them in 2023. Tell us a little bit about that, how that went.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
Jeremy, take us into the Red Square.
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How gigantic? And was it picked up on radar or only seen visually?
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You know, I would think something like that gigantic red glowing square over Vandenberg that goes over the base would freak people the hell out. There would be alarm bells going off.
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Massive Mystery Cubes Invade Vandenberg Space Force Base : Military Cops Give Chase - Guest : Jeff Nuccetelli
this is 2003 it's a year before the famous tic-tac case at the time had you were you up on ufo history of vandenberg the kinds of things that happened to bob jacobs and mr launches uh decades earlier yeah i was aware of that case um i used to listen to like coast to coast am radio and things like that so you know because you're working all night and there's nothing so i would listen to that and a lot of people in the military did so we i knew a little bit about that but um